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League Wan said:
You need a decade of demand before you do anything about it imo, not 10 games. We've seen it all before,look how ridiculous it's looked when went down after the last extension.

For years i didn't sit in my seat in u13, I stood with the lads further along. I will assume these are the same, thats the closest to the south they could get so just got it anyway?
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This mind set of assuming we'll fail is like a city wide chip on people's shoulders.

I'd rather have the entire stadium extended than worry about what it looks like IF we go back to league 1.
 
richest said:
Me too

And why are they doing this when there are thousands on the list that wont get tickets?
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To possibly gauge what demand is? Not everyone who signs up to the waiting list would buy a ticket but if 20,000+ signed up then the club know there's demand there. If just 5,000 did then it's probably better they just increase prices rather than look to extend in coming seasons.

Mnemonic said:
This mind set of assuming we'll fail is like a city wide chip on people's shoulders.

I'd rather have the entire stadium extended than worry about what it looks like IF we go back to league 1.
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Having that mindset means we'd end up with constant price rises, all while losing out on millions from the potential of £1,000s more in corporate. If we got relegated then you'd also like to think we'd bounce back given the higher revenue.

For those who would like to see what happens when a club constantly sells out, have a look at Brighton's pricing structure here. Also bear in mind this is only their 9th season in the Premier League yet they've milked the fans and have less age bands with smaller concession areas.

Not renewing?

Great work 👍. Looking at those numbers it must be pretty difficult for some pensioners on low income to get a ticket. It's obviously open to abuse and likely to spark a different debate (and we don't want the thread shifted to the Politics board :lol:), but do any clubs do concession prices...
www.readytogo.net www.readytogo.net

Look here to see an estimation of how another 3,300 corporate seats would be like increasing every one of our STs by £150.

Not renewing?

Be renewing me OAP seat no matter.
www.readytogo.net www.readytogo.net

That's being conservative as that £1,700 is cheaper than our 76 yards. If we had the same in the East then I'm sure there would be fans willing to pay over £2,000 a season to have a lounge ST, plus they'd be spending more money in the club. That's a canny few £million in match day revenue a season but more importantly thanks to the stadium size would mean we could also still offer cheaper seats and better concessions than many other clubs.

If we ever went down, then the club could drop prices to keep many fans coming on the understanding that if we go back up then they would increase again. If we sell out season after season then it means you're pricing out fans, especially young 'uns.

If we did go down, then like most clubs fans will disappear but you've also lost the fans who couldn't go but would have and would have still gone even after relegation. Basically the less affluent but on the whole probable more committed and noisier than the more affluent who just go as it's a Premier League game (See the mags as an example of this happening).
 
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Mnemonic said:
This mind set of assuming we'll fail is like a city wide chip on people's shoulders.

I'd rather have the entire stadium extended than worry about what it looks like IF we go back to league 1.
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I think they have to be careful with over-extending too as that can even reduce demand.

Take my own case, living away I know I won't get to all of the games and over recent years a season ticket has made no sense to me financially as it works out cheaper just to pay for the games that I can attend. This season though that has changed for the first time ever. It still makes no financial sense, but it is getting hard to guarantee matchday tickets as the demand is so high, and when I do I end up sitting on my own in different parts of the stadium. Having a season ticket is also effectively the only way to get to away games which I love going to. If there were more matchday tickets available I wouldn't bother.

Result is I am now seriously considering a ST for next year - I still won't get to all of the games so there will likely be an empty seat sometimes, but at least I will be guaranteed to get to the games I can get too - also the bonus that I can slowly start to build up some points for away matches again.

I would be surprised if there are not quite a lot of people with similar circumstances.
 
RTGAdmin said:
I think they have to be careful with over-extending too as that can even reduce demand.

Take my own case, living away I know I won't get to all of the games and over recent years a season ticket has made no sense to me financially as it works out cheaper just to pay for the games that I can attend. This season though that has changed for the first time ever. It still makes no financial sense, but it is getting hard to guarantee matchday tickets as the demand is so high, and when I do I end up sitting on my own in different parts of the stadium. Having a season ticket is also effectively the only way to get to away games which I love going to. If there were more matchday tickets available I wouldn't bother.

Result is I am now seriously considering a ST for next year - I still won't get to all of the games so there will likely be an empty seat sometimes, but at least I will be guaranteed to get to the games I can get too - also the bonus that I can slowly start to build up some points for away matches again.

I would be surprised if there are not quite a lot of people with similar circumstances.
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I'm sure the club could put in place a system to cater for that, e.g. better official resale.

When we moved to the SOL, people said it was too big, same when we extended, yet here we are with people struggling to get tickets.

Extend the whole 2nd tier right the way around, drop the prices until it's sold out and enjoy.
 
League Wan said:
You need a decade of demand before you do anything about it imo, not 10 games. We've seen it all before,look how ridiculous it's looked when went down after the last extension.
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Well if history tells us anything about this, it is that SAFC will always bounce back, and that extension you refer to was without question the right thing to do, even though at the time we didn't have your decade of demand to point to. However many empty seats we had during the dark days (I'd rather we count the actual attendance figures than the empty seats, and they were nothing short of fantastic), was it not worth 'looking ridiculous' (which IMO we never did) for the benefit of having a larger stadium over the long term, which we are now reaping the rewards from and will continue to do so in future? We're in the same position now as the club was then in needing to grow, only the rationale is far stronger, given the importance of maximising revenues under new financial rules.
League Wan said:
We dont need an extension though, theres nothing to suggest we do. Just being realistic
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Financially, we very much do need it. And we have thousands of fans who can't get tickets also, apart from anything else.
 
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RTGAdmin said:
I think they have to be careful with over-extending too as that can even reduce demand.

Take my own case, living away I know I won't get to all of the games and over recent years a season ticket has made no sense to me financially as it works out cheaper just to pay for the games that I can attend. This season though that has changed for the first time ever. It still makes no financial sense, but it is getting hard to guarantee matchday tickets as the demand is so high, and when I do I end up sitting on my own in different parts of the stadium. Having a season ticket is also effectively the only way to get to away games which I love going to. If there were more matchday tickets available I wouldn't bother.

Result is I am now seriously considering a ST for next year - I still won't get to all of the games so there will likely be an empty seat sometimes, but at least I will be guaranteed to get to the games I can get too - also the bonus that I can slowly start to build up some points for away matches again.

I would be surprised if there are not quite a lot of people with similar circumstances.
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I’m gonna do exactly the same, but I also imagine the clubs going to do the same as other clubs and ban you for the following seasons if you don’t use the SC for the majority of the games
 
HarrogateMackem said:
I’m gonna do exactly the same, but I also imagine the clubs going to do the same as other clubs and ban you for the following seasons if you don’t use the SC for the majority of the games
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Yeah, I wonder if something like a membership scheme that you pay for but get priority for ticket applications and a discount on them (so if you go to enough games it covers the cost) would work, but that is probably getting far to complex!
 
HarrogateMackem said:
I’m gonna do exactly the same, but I also imagine the clubs going to do the same as other clubs and ban you for the following seasons if you don’t use the SC for the majority of the games
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To be fair those clubs almost always say you'd only lose your season ticket if you don't attend and don't list it on resale. So it's easy not to fall foul of it. And if it doesn't sell that's not your problem, you've done what you needed to do

In terms of extending the ground I'd be fine with it if the club think it's worth it. Yes we'd have empty seats, but only sad sacks on social media care about what % of your seats are filled. If they think the cost is worth it due to the additional hospitality they can get in there, if it makes the stadium more valuable for other events (although extending the south might not help for concerts since that's where the stage goes, but might be other events), then it might be worth the cost even if we rarely get near capacity. And then it's there if we ever need it. From KLDs perspective it also makes the club more valuable if he chooses to sell. People buying into a club with 60,000 capacity or whatever so, if the cost is reasonable, it's probably worth doing anyway
 
RTGAdmin said:
Yeah, I wonder if something like a membership scheme that you pay for but get priority for ticket applications and a discount on them (so if you go to enough games it covers the cost) would work, but that is probably getting far to complex!
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Everton have similar I think - but it's a massive rip off, because everyone gets it so you're essentially not getting a priority (and you're just giving the club £40 for nowt).
Guinness Guzzler said:
To be fair those clubs almost always say you'd only lose your season ticket if you don't attend and don't list it on resale. So it's easy not to fall foul of it. And if it doesn't sell that's not your problem, you've done what you needed to do

In terms of extending the ground I'd be fine with it if the club think it's worth it. Yes we'd have empty seats, but only sad sacks on social media care about what % of your seats are filled. If they think the cost is worth it due to the additional hospitality they can get in there, if it makes the stadium more valuable for other events (although extending the south might not help for concerts since that's where the stage goes, but might be other events), then it might be worth the cost even if we rarely get near capacity. And then it's there if we ever need it. From KLDs perspective it also makes the club more valuable if he chooses to sell. People buying into a club with 60,000 capacity or whatever so, if the cost is reasonable, it's probably worth doing anyway
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I think those clubs (Liverpool, Man U etc.) ban you, if you list it on resale platforms too much as well tbf.
 
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HarrogateMackem said:
Everton have similar I think - but it's a massive rip off, because everyone gets it so you're essentially not getting a priority (and you're just giving the club £40 for nowt).

I think those clubs (Liverpool, Man U etc.) ban you, if you list it on resale platforms too much as well tbf.
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Just had a look, man united definitely don't:

"Season Ticket holders are required to make use of their ticket for at least 16 out of 19 Premier League games in 2025/26. To help with this, you can use the following options if you cannot attend:

1. Forward your ticket to another fan
2. Donate the cost of your ticket to the MU Foundation
3. Return your ticket and get a refund using the resale option online

How do I use these options? You will be able to use all of these options within the Official Manchester United App.

Is there a deadline? We ask fans to use resale and donate as early as possible. If using resale, in order to receive a full refund (subject to resale of the ticket), this needs to be no later than two weeks before the fixture. Any tickets listed and resold after this time will be subject to a £10 fee. Note that only the ticket owner or transaction lead can list a ticket for resale.

Do all of these options count towards minimum attendance? Yes, they do. Only where a ticket is listed for resale within 14 days of the game and not resold will minimum attendance be impacted."

Haven't looked at Liverpool but I'm sure they're the same. Haven't heard of any clubs imposing anything stricter than that, they don't really care as long as the seat is taken
 
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