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Under 11s games are also often played on mornings so grounds/ club volunteers are tied up with that.

I do think that bringing the start forward to 1:00 would be better though.
1pm starts have been put forward both this year and last year at the DCL and both times it's failed due to those who work mornings being heard and the fact there are too many traditionalists who are making the vote for their respective team. For me a compromise of 2nd teams starting earlier and 1st teams starting later would mean either format could suit a person and keep players in the game.

I am however against 11am starts though for the fact that any overnight rain will see games called off. For me most grounds after overnight rain become playable about 12.30 so that would be a good starting time imo.
 

I think its a difficult issue as there seems to be no pleasing everyone as edd says above say a 12 or 12:30 start might be better.

I'd certainly be happy about that as it means i dont get as much earache off the mrs during the summer!!
 
I think its a difficult issue as there seems to be no pleasing everyone as edd says above say a 12 or 12:30 start might be better.

I'd certainly be happy about that as it means i dont get as much earache off the mrs during the summer!!

That seems are very sensible approach especially when trying to attract new players.
 
On participation . Why can't games start earlier?? Used to bug me waiting around until 1.45 to start a game knowing that it could easily drag on and make it impossible to do anything on the night.. Take the wife/kids out etc.. start at 11.00am (ish) and ensure games finished at a reasonable time and it might get some people back into the game and encourage new players... Mate of mine was dead keen to get into it a few years ago but soon changed his mind when he found out games sometimes go on to 7.30/8.00 ..

Just a thought and sorry if it's already been said but I haven't read the full thread..
There were times when many wives/children also came to the game and families stayed to enjoy a Saturday night at their cricket club.
I accept times have changed but not necessarily for the better where clubs are concerned and participation has been seriously affected.
At the end of the day those that want to play will play and those that don't won't.
 
DSL clubs were quite happy to keep teams like Wearmouth, Seaham Harbour and North Durham in their league as they provided easy points and posed no threat to the better teams.

If they’d allowed the likes of Hetton Lyons and, to a lesser extent, Ryhope into the DSL it would have been a better competition but less chance of the self serving ‘big guns’ winning.

From personal experience the league committee where a bunch of gin slinging old dodderers - for want of a better term

They looked after their clubs pure and simple; unlike the current set up which entirely revolves around producing cricketers for Durham. In this sense they have been successful but only at the detriment of club cricket.
The league committee ensured that their league lasted for almost 100 years. (Do you think the NEPL will last as long.) They had attendances at one point in the thousands, the league contained professionals of test match class and they provided most of the cricketers for Durham when they were a minor county side.
Instead of 100s of very good sides which were all very competitive you now have an elite of about 12 clubs all of whom are hugely reliable on sponsorship money and a league which imposes absurd demands on clubs in order for them to be accepted. Most of their players are drawn from all over the area rather than as happened in the past from their local village.

There were times when many wives/children also came to the game and families stayed to enjoy a Saturday night at their cricket club.
I accept times have changed but not necessarily for the better where clubs are concerned and participation has been seriously affected.
At the end of the day those that want to play will play and those that don't won't.

That was when local players played for local clubs and there was a family atmosphere. Under the current system clubs are drawing their players from all over the area-players which have no affiliation with their clubs.

Been done to death this to be fair. At the end of the day, if the DSL had opened up promotion and relegation at the time it was mooted then there'd have been no need for a Premier League cos the DSL would've remained the top league and all the history and statistics of a league steeped in history would've remained in tact.

They signed their own death warrant by ignoring progress and trying to dictate to the DCB.

Durham City for the record, had only themselves to blame. For too long they ignored their local players in favour of the students who only played ended up playing for part of the season.

EDIT: Stand alone quote, managed to reply in error.

As a league which had existed for a 100 years they probably felt they had the right to tell johnny come latelys where to get off.
Johnny come latelys I may add who sole purpose was not to promote club cricket but to promote the County.
 
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They had attendances at one point in the thousands, the league contained professionals of test match class and they provided most of the cricketers for Durham when they were a minor county side.
Instead of 100s of very good sides which were all very competitive you now have an elite of about 12 clubs all of whom are hugely reliable on sponsorship money and a league which imposes absurd demands on clubs in order for them to be accepted. Most of their players are drawn from all over the area rather than as happened in the past from their local village.



That was when local players played for local clubs and there was a family atmosphere. Under the current system clubs are drawing their players from all over the area-players which have no affiliation with their clubs.



As a league which had existed for a 100 years they probably felt they had the right to tell johnny come latelys where to get off.
Johnny come latelys I may add who sole purpose was not to promote club cricket but to promote the County.

Attendances in the thousands? Ha'way man Wicketkeeper, there's nobody still alive who remembers them days man? All clubs would've been well supported back then. Unfortunately we have cars and technology now which gives people other things to do on a Saturday afternoon (which is actually part of the challenge for local cricket going forward).

Yes, they did provide cricketers for the Minor County side which meant good players from outside the league had to move clubs and into the DSL to achieve that goal.

There was plenty of money sloshing around the DSL as well and clubs drew players in from all over the county as per my comment above. There wasn't many local Felling lads in the side that won the DSL lads in the 90s for one example (Chris Pleasants and young Moffatt but can't think of another). Philly in the 80s had the likes of Paul Burn and Stephen Peel from Sacriston and Stephen Ball from Tudhoe . Chester-le-Street had Stuart Wilkinson (Shotley Bridge) and the Stokoe brothers (Greenside) to name just a few off the top of my head so what is happening now is of no difference to back then imo. I'm sure others on here can give more examples.

Also, you still have clubs who are predominantly home grown like Eppleton and Sacriston, one of which would never have been given the opportunity if the DSL had been allowed to stifle progress.

Your last comment sums the attitude of the DSL and the reason why it no longer it exists which I find a crying shame given it's long and rich history. Once the county went 1st class then change had to happen in order for clubs, and not just players, to have the opportunity to progress. For the record, I can sit and listen to the old boys talking about the DSL days for hours on end as I find it fascinating and my Father would take me to watch Philly now and again in the 80s as a kid although we weren't DSL lads so to speak.

We'll never agree on this one but to bring up crowds of thousands from a bygone age is farcical against progress and increased opportunity for all and the days of the big name pros are well and truly over with the busy international cricket calendar and money involved in it now.
 
Was out with 2 lads last night who post on this forum for a ex players reunion do as horden cricket club. Got talking to another ex player who is also a Sunderland fan. This section of the forum came up and the other bloke said there two posters on here called @wicketkeeper and @Voice of fair play who are always talking about the senior league amongst other stuff. Guess what other two lads i was out with:lol:

Its a small world;)
 
Club are folding so I've heard
Very sad. The bairn played there last year and I always thought it was a good set up. Very different mind you from the SHCC I went to years ago to watch George Midgley play for Burnmoor (I used to go out with his eldest daughter). It was of course before they sold land for house building.

Mixed messages on here mind.

I'm now being told that Seaham Harbour have just arranged an NEPL U15 game with Eppleton.
 
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did the harbour play at a different ground - i remember playing some school games at seaham harbour back in the early/mid 90's and iirc it was a shithole. Went back last year and it was vastly different and way better, which is why this is very surprising and sad news.

Hopefully the escape route of the NEDCL helps them find their feet(once again the NEDCL providing a safety net for clubs)
 
did the harbour play at a different ground - i remember playing some school games at seaham harbour back in the early/mid 90's and iirc it was a shithole. Went back last year and it was vastly different and way better, which is why this is very surprising and sad news.

Hopefully the escape route of the NEDCL helps them find their feet(once again the NEDCL providing a safety net for clubs)
Not sure if they plan on taking the option. Looks like they have decided to fold. But anything official yet?
 
Not sure if they plan on taking the option. Looks like they have decided to fold. But anything official yet?
It is with immense saddness that this post is being wrote. The club has decided to close with immediate effect in its 150th year. The club would like to sincerely thank the players, members and committee for their services to the club over the years, which has helped create a great atmosphere, a great place to play and fantastic memories both on and off the pitch. We wish all involved the very best in the future and any club who accepts a harbour player is not only gaining a great player but more importantly a geniune and brilliant person. I encourage all juniors to continue playing the game you love as you are the cricketers of tomorrow. Thank you for all your support and all the very best.

With saddens Shaun Hagan on behalf of the committee.
 
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