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They say casualties. Not deatha.BBC verify that at least 50,000 Russians have been killed so far. This is based on evidence of the official announcements of an individula's death - known funerals - social media and a survey of military cemeteries .
Obviously the bodies of troops that have been disposed in other ways or troops who are as yet "missing" or unaccounted for can't be counted and the figure is likely to be higher than the known burrials of troops counted by the BBC .
I have always thought that the figures claimed by the Ukrianian Govenment must include the wounded. If for example 6 men are in a building and you drop a bomb on it you can't always assume that none of them have survived. Also in the heat of battle if two troops fire at one enemy soldier from different positions and he falls that can be mistakenly reported as two enemy deaths. It not like calculating the loss of Russian equiment where verification is easier as clear evidence of it often remains on the battlefield for quite sometime.
I think however whatever the actual number of Russian deaths might be it's one hell of a lot.
Russia's meat grinder soldiers - 50,000 confirmed dead
In the second 12 months on the front line the body count was nearly 25% higher than in the first year.www.bbc.co.uk
They say casualties. Not deatha.
Russia could have a casualty who gets sent back out after recuperating and then becomes a casualty again.
The number of deaths though is wager my house are much higher than 50k
They also say the reality is it will be much higherNo chance deaths will be 50k.
Russia are hiding the deaths from their population so there will never be formal certificates and funerals. We have seen mobil crematoriums, bodies left to rot, contestant mobilisation (at least one large wave of it), destruction of skilled and experienced units,thousands of tech and hardware that will have more than one person in, mass grave sites in Russia, recruitment from other countries. This is from a starting point of a massive army. No way is it 50k imo. It's probably closer to 50k a qtr.
In the BBCs defence they do say confirmed to be fair.
Isn't the word that has always been used on the table that's pubished by Ukriane "losses" . That sounds a bit more permanent than casualties and its a little more ambigious as the figure must also include the Russian POWs that Ukriane holds (the number of whom the Ukrainians know for certain).They say casualties. Not deatha.
Russia could have a casualty who gets sent back out after recuperating and then becomes a casualty again.
The number of deaths though is wager my house are much higher than 50k
It'll be in six figures, definitely. On the very first page of this thread Russia were admitting to 1600 deaths when the number reported by the Kyiv Independent was 10x that. This was while they were getting absolutely mullered at Hostomel among many other places where the body count was already outrageously high.Isn't the word that has always been used on the table that's pubished by Ukriane "losses" . That sounds a bit more permanent than casualties and its a little more ambigious as the figure must also include the Russian POWs that Ukriane holds (the number of whom the Ukrainians know for certain).
I am not blaming the Ukrainains though as the only people who know with any reasonable certainty how many Russsian troops have been killed and injured are the Russians themselves - and they are certainly not saying. I agree that there is probably more than 50,000 Russian dead but the total may not yet be in six figures.
Don't forget the BBC is saying "verified" - that's deaths for which their is some known evidence of.
Aye adding nukes into the mix would definitely help thingsI know, I know.
But the transfer of a dozen battlefield nukes to Ukraine on New Year's Day 2022 would have prevented all this carnage.
Piecemeal gets what piecemeal deserves. And it certainly ain't peace.
They say casualties. Not deatha.
Russia could have a casualty who gets sent back out after recuperating and then becomes a casualty again.
The number of deaths though is wager my house are much higher than 50k
Nobody on the planet expected him to be invited.I see the MSM dancing in delight at France not inviting Vlad for the upcoming D-day gig.
Nobody on the planet expected him to be invited.
He couldn't be invited he's a war criminal.Nobody on the planet expected him to be invited.