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Roy Keane

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Sweeper said:
Depends what the "job" for Speakman entails. If it entails putting his nose in to first team affairs, he's not qualified for that job and has no experience in first team football.
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Absolute load of crap. A lot of fake news here. His interview was poorly timed, other than that, we don't know. Pack in with all the negativity, just creating a huge divide at a time where we need to all be together.

He's got an excellent reputation in the game for good reason.
 
LukeJH96 said:
Pisses me off as well that the local media these days are literally just mouth pieces for the club. Look at Phil Smith from the Echo. There is hardly and opinion or exclusives. They just spout off whatever the club has told them.
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Smith was fiercely critical this weekend. As has Wilson been today.

They can’t win with sections of our fanbase. On Friday they were reporting nothing was imminent and people were accusing them of being bitter Mag saboteurs. Today, they’re club mouthpieces.
 
Munchkin said:
He never last time around so why should this be any different.
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Never said he would. I was using an example that if someone puts a agreevent in front of you, you don’t just say… eye reet. This has to negioated by both parties. Keane pretty much said so himself.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
Of course if he Roy Keane is announced this afternoon that's a job for life for Speakman - imagine that sacking Johnson, bringing in Defoe and then appointing Roy Keane all in a week. Would deserve the freedom of the city.
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Not for me either way. Sacked Johnson with no replacement. Signed a 39 year old Defoe to appease fans. Put his mate in charge and likely will cost us 6 points in two games. Has Roy Keane on a a plate. We all know deep down he will mess this up and appoint McCann or Neil.
 
Wardley Makem said:
Absolute load of crap. A lot of fake news here. His interview was poorly timed, other than that, we don't know. Pack in with all the negativity, just creating a huge divide at a time where we need to all be together.

He's got an excellent reputation in the game for good reason.
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Load of crap?

Feel free to talk me through his experience in first team football and/or overseeing all football operations at a football club.......
 
Wardley Makem said:
Absolute load of crap. A lot of fake news here. His interview was poorly timed, other than that, we don't know. Pack in with all the negativity, just creating a huge divide at a time where we need to all be together.

He's got an excellent reputation in the game for good reason.
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Not only was it poorly timed, it made us look incompetent because of the content. Mentioning shortlists and fact finding a week after dismissing the previous manager for cumulative reasons is rubbish.

Fact finding and shortlisting should have been done prior to Johnson being sacked. Not on the eve of two very important fixtures
 
Haswell Makem said:
I am starting to think that also. Don't think it is at ownership level this time mind, but at playing and administration level everything seems to be going to shit, with the people in charge (Speakman and Davison).
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I’ve read the ‘opinion’ article. It’s hardly fierce. Not enough questions are asked.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Smith was fiercely critical this weekend. As has Wilson been today.

They can’t win with sections of our fanbase. On Friday they were reporting nothing was imminent and people were accusing them of being bitter Mag saboteurs. Today, they’re club mouthpieces.
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As journalists should they not then be addressing “why” nothing is imminent. Investigative, critical journalism - holding the club to account for their readers?

Journalism isn’t just writing down what someone tells you the story is (the club, an agent, a player/manager) and just repeating it.
 
LukeJH96 said:
Not for me either way. Sacked Johnson with no replacement. Signed a 39 year old Defoe to appease fans. Put his mate in charge and likely will cost us 6 points in two games. Has Roy Keane on a a plate. We all know deep down he will mess this up and appoint McCann or Neil.
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I thought Defoe looked very lively when he came on. I think he'll be a great signing but then again I am easily appeased.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
I think McCann and Neil are better than Johnson, personally and that's the main thing.

I think Lennon or Warnock would be a disaster.

Keane? Idk. It's a massive gamble. I'd roll the dice like, there's no doubt imo that he has the highest ceiling and is most likely to get us to the top of Championship over a 2-3 year time horizon. But in all honesty it such a gamble that I think for promotion this year that McCann is probably the highest percentage shot. People won't like that, but think it's true.
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Both logical options really, but I'm not sure they're any different to Johnson. The likes of Neil, McCann, Johnson, Cowley, Cook are all in the same boat. They're managers for bottom tier Championship clubs or "ambitious" L1 clubs, solid appointments capable of doing "okay" but not of elevating a club in trouble in the middle-of-the-season. It's true they've both got promotions on their CV, but this place puts far too much value in that anyway. Cowley and Cook were both held in high regard on here for having won promotion previously, but neither even sniffed the Playoffs this season or last.

The club really needs to get away from that sort of appointment, but it's difficult. The patience clearly isn't there for a young manager to come in mid-season, even though that's the route we need to go down. I have a number of reservations, but at this point I can't see how the next manager is going to survive if he's not called Roy Keane.
 
On my break now and expected to see he had been named the Head coach, another kick when I'm down from the club as we need someone in ASAP
 
West_Winger said:
Nope. Most new managers are in place less than a week after the previous one is sacked.

Watford - 5 days before Ranieri then the same day Ranieri was sacked.

West Brom - 48 hours

Norwich - 8 days

Everton - 12 days (but Ferguson already had experience leading the first team)

Spurs - 24 hours

Villa - 5 days
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It hasn't been eight full days here yet and you've got some posters on here saying it's done and dusted, plus bookies have suspended betting.

Plus, there are plenty of examples not on that list, including the very obvious one we know and love.

I just think the fury is a bit much. As ever, on here - takeover, transfers, this - always the case that people wet the bed and then a decision, often recently the one they want, is announced less 48 hours later.
 
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