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Roy Keane

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Georgewhitt said:
My heart agrees with you mate, but outside of our fanbase, we are looked upon as a Third division side that repeatedly fails to get promotion.
I know how big and influential we used to be as a club, but the rest of the world don't see it that way anymore buddy.
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Our own fan base sees us as that now tbh mate. If not, they should do.
 

Altidore Step Overs said:
Football moves fast though. He might be a success, ultimately he's a bit of an unknown quantity as we really have no idea how he'll do, as he hasn't had a recent club. I just feel you look at a lot of previous managers where the games passed them by - MicMac, O'Neill, Bruce, Pulis, Hughes, Lambert - just off the top of my head. 15 years ago O'Neill would have been a quality appointment. Now though, no one would touch him.
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Half of those names would still be more than good enough for this level, though, and that's what I'm getting at. If you're looking to go toe-to-toe with Pep, Klopp, Conte et al you certainly need more strings to your bow, but at this level it's about motivation, fitness and doing the basics well.

We just got rid of someone who arguably epitomised the new school of cod philosophy and management jargon coaching, but kept getting his pants pulled down by managers who don't do anything more innovative than what would have been seen 15-20 years ago.
 
Safc1987 said:
My guess would be Roy Keane, he knows the game.
Football is full of cliches, coaching spiel
Keane has done his badges but the instructions will be simple, motivation is still 9 tenths of law in football. With all due respect to league one it’s the team highest motivated, doing the basics very well which usually win, Keane I’d imagine will replace ‘counter press’ with close people down, the emphasis will be on working harder than the opppositon , defenders do your jobs
This notion that he will be some sort of dinosaur out of touch is ridiculous
He’ll pick a team on the Saturday who he can rely on most to have a go for him I’d back his judgement
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TBH he doesn’t need to be a tactical genius, I am sure he can bring assistants in with fresh ideas and ‘modern’ ways of doing things.

What he does have is the personality that will get an extra 10% out of everyone. Imagine going in at HT last week after conceding that second and Keane be waiting in the dressing room.
 
AKickUpTheBerntHaas said:
Had my say on Keane already. I’m not particularly happy or enthused by this but it’s going to happen, isn’t it? I’m happy for him to surprise me but I reckon it’s quite the risk.
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No more of a risk then employing another empty vessel like Johnson with a thesaurus as their right hand man.

There is nearly 40k there today on the back of rumours (and JD of course).

He is the only game in town.
 
Pepe said:
No more of a risk then employing another empty vessel like Johnson with a thesaurus as their right hand man.

There is nearly 40k there today on the back of rumours (and JD of course).

He is the only game in town.
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Of course but Johnson wasn’t the right man either so it’s a low bar of comparison.

As I said, I’ve had my say. Keane was good fifteen years ago and I liked him then, till it went sour, but I’m just not sure this time around.

He’s not the only game in town. Sunderland are the game in town. No one and I mean absolutely no one, is bigger than this football club.
 
If he's close to coming he will without a doubt be there today in the stands. Let's raise the f***ing roof and show KLD how big things can get if he gets things right.

Haway the lads!
 
AKickUpTheBerntHaas said:
Had my say on Keane already. I’m not particularly happy or enthused by this but it’s going to happen, isn’t it? I’m happy for him to surprise me but I reckon it’s quite the risk.
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Okay if keanes a risk. Of the other top managers on the shortlist they are as far away from being safe as I can ever imagine
Keane has managed this club before successfully in the two leagues above barring the last month or two of his tenure
The alternatives are scary for me and I’d argue worse than Johnson
 
Safc1987 said:
Okay if keanes a risk. Of the other top managers on the shortlist they are as far away from being safe as I can ever imagine
Keane has managed this club before successfully in the two leagues above barring the last month or two of his tenure
The alternatives are scary for me and I’d argue worse than Johnson
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Grant McCann's a safer pick for promotion out of this league than Keane. Not anywhere near as exciting, but safer.
 
AKickUpTheBerntHaas said:
Of course but Johnson wasn’t the right man either so it’s a low bar of comparison.

As I said, I’ve had my say. Keane was good fifteen years ago and I liked him then, till it went sour, but I’m just not sure this time around.

He’s not the only game in town. Sunderland are the game in town. No one and I mean absolutely no one, is bigger than this football club.
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On the last point, it needs somebody capable of carrying the weight of the football club though. Keane can do that.
 
Georgewhitt said:
My heart agrees with you mate, but outside of our fanbase, we are looked upon as a Third division side that repeatedly fails to get promotion.
I know how big and influential we used to be as a club, but the rest of the world don't see it that way anymore buddy.
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You’re wrong.

Listen to any new signing. Listen to opposition fans. Listen to opposition players.

There’s absolutely no bias involved when I say that most people recognise that we’re not a third division club. The general consensus in the game is that we’re too big to be in this league.
 
As far as I'm concerned there weren't any outstanding candidates available. Whilst Keane is a risk, the positives he brings with regards to fan enthusiasm and name value outweigh the negatives imo, particularly when compared to the other options.
 
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