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Roy Keane

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Altidore Step Overs said:
McCann took Hull up last season, and had them playing well in the championship. He's taken other clubs up as well. Keane's one achievement in management happened 15 years ago and no one's touched him since he failed at Ipswich.
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So he’s took a team up from league 1 and then done naff all in that higher league is what your saying, even a 15 years older Keane has still done more than McCann. Failed at Ipswich where the club was as bad as ours these last few years and where 2 other managers after Keane failed, he then had a good spell at a international team as a coach and I’m pretty sure that’s what his tenure will be here as head coach. I would say he’s a safer bet than McCann if we want to get back to the premier
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Apart from his first stint with your club, he's been a bit of a disaster to be fair.
When he took over Sunderland he was a player's draw. A top player for a massive club now going into management.

He once had the ability to draw players into his setup, backed by the owner. Will he again?

Since then he's basically failed or walked away.
I'm not saying it'll happen again if he comes to your club but I just wonder if he's the right man for the job.

This all seems like a knee-jerk reaction by the owner who appears to be offering emotional returns in order to fix something that wasn't really broken.

Good luck if you do get him. I'm not trying to put the scud on anything, just giving my opinion looking from outside in.
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Piss off
 
journeyman said:
So he’s took a team up from league 1 and then done naff all in that higher league is what your saying, even a 15 years older Keane has still done more than McCann. Failed at Ipswich where the club was as bad as ours these last few years and where 2 other managers after Keane failed, he then had a good spell at a international team as a coach and I’m pretty sure that’s what his tenure will be here as head coach. I would say he’s a safer bet than McCann if we want to get back to the premier
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If we're going for managers that have achieved something 15 years ago why not go for O'Neil? All I'm trying to say is there is a reason no other club will touch him, and that for me makes it a bad decision. I'm well up for being proven wrong though as it would be class.
 
Hulkenburger said:
As far as I'm concerned there weren't any outstanding candidates available. Whilst Keane is a risk, the positives he brings with regards to fan enthusiasm and name value outweigh the negatives imo, particularly when compared to the other options.
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From those mentioned in the media. Speakman's crack the other day suggested they've been monitoring young coaches both here and abroad for quite some time now. I'm not disagreeing with you here, merely introducing this into the conversation, we don't really know who may have snuck into the picture. Has to be said mind, the coaches alleged to be in frame don't exactly set the pulse racing.
 
Safc1987 said:
Okay if keanes a risk. Of the other top managers on the shortlist they are as far away from being safe as I can ever imagine
Keane has managed this club before successfully in the two leagues above barring the last month or two of his tenure
The alternatives are scary for me and I’d argue worse than Johnson
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The shortlist, according to Sky, is depressing and somewhat confusing. Keane, Lennon, Warnock and McCann according to them, I just don’t get how the club has whittled it down to those four. Are those four names signs of genuine ambition from the club?

Warnock’s a dinosaur, almost certainly has never worked with as much of an analytical approach regarding to recruitment as we are told we do and his football is shit.

Lennon’s been shit for the most part since leaving Celtic, I have no idea what he’s doing within 100 miles of SoL.

Keane’s a sentimental addition to that list. Great for us fifteen years ago but hasn’t worked as a manager in twelve and has been part of two clubs as assistant that hasn’t lasted over a year at either. I didn’t have him down as someone who’d accept some of the responsibility being out of his hands either.

McCann, a bit like Parkinson when we got him, they’ve looked and seen a promotion on his CV and considered him. Under crap ownership he did quite well at Hull and he wasn’t doing a terrible job at Hull in the Championship either.

I’m a little worried about the shortlist. Is this the best names who applied? Who is KLD listening to when it comes to creating a shortlist and compiling who should be in charge? They got Johnson wrong, I’m a bit anxious we could do the same.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Apart from his first stint with your club, he's been a bit of a disaster to be fair.
When he took over Sunderland he was a player's draw. A top player for a massive club now going into management.

He once had the ability to draw players into his setup, backed by the owner. Will he again?

Since then he's basically failed or walked away.
I'm not saying it'll happen again if he comes to your club but I just wonder if he's the right man for the job.

This all seems like a knee-jerk reaction by the owner who appears to be offering emotional returns in order to fix something that wasn't really broken.

Good luck if you do get him. I'm not trying to put the scud on anything, just giving my opinion looking from outside in.
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Seething that you've got Eddie Howe in situ when you thought you'd get a big name as a manager.
 
Altidore Step Overs said:
Grant McCann's a safer pick for promotion out of this league than Keane. Not anywhere near as exciting, but safer.
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On first glance perhaps but his achievement was getting a side that retained most of its championship squad promoted, something he absolutely should have been able to do. Not underestimated by me, after all we couldn’t do that but it’s not an unbelievable achievement and his record otherwise isn’t great. I’m not convinced Keane is the man either but I’d take him over McCann every time.
 
Spennymoor72 said:
Piss off
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Don’t waste your breath mate. We could be hiring pep Guardiola and he’d have said similar.

Funny how he appears on huge threads disagreeing isn’t it. The bloke “thinks” the world is flat and takes great delight in the facade.

Same bloke decides to pipe up on the Johnson thread saying it’s the wrong decision. Now all of a sudden Keane is the wrong decision.

Clear as day he gets kicks out of arguing. Leave well alone and if the mods had any sense they’d ban him.
 
Scorer said:
On first glance perhaps but his achievement was getting a side that retained most of its championship squad promoted, something he absolutely should have been able to do. Not underestimated by me, after all we couldn’t do that but it’s not an unbelievable achievement and his record otherwise isn’t great. I’m not convinced Keane is the man either but I’d take him over McCann every time.
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I don't want McCann either, what I'm trying to say though he's probably objectively a better pick than Keane. I want neither really, I'd want us to go for a coach looking for a first move into management - someone like Terry
 
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