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Roy Keane

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I want to be positive about this, and will enjoy the initial euphoria. But there's just part of me that feels like this isn't a great idea.

First of all, I feel that part of Keane's original success with us 14 years ago was to do with the fact he was managing players he had played with, or against, or even just who were professionals during the time he played. Not that current day players don't respect him, but I feel the 2008 players would have a better understanding of who Keane is and therefore deal with his personality better. Not to mention rightly or wrongly, modern players do tend to need a lighter touch. Perhaps Keane will adapt his style. I'm not sure.

Next of all, financially the game itself has changed so much. In 2008, we got promoted from the Championship with a spend of around 8million iirc, at the time one of the biggest spenders in the division. Nowadays teams are spending tens of millions and failing to get close. Granted COVID and situations like Derby and Sheff Wed should dissuade that behaviour somewhat. The point is we don't have the financial clout to cover up any managerial weaknesses Keane may have.

The game is also different tactically, I don't think you can get away with just motivating a team up the league anymore. There's a much greater focus on tactics and data than ever before, and again I have no idea how well Keane would adapt to that.

If he is the new manager I will support him, and I am ready to be proven totally wrong but it just feels like an appeal to emotion not logic.
 

SebastienELLISbexter said:
I honestly believe KLD wouldn't do that to us. I think if we miss out on Keane then the process may just start again and he'd know he would have to look further afield for a bit of an unknown quantity who the fans couldn't be underwhelmed or even whelmed with. Kisnorbo maybe.
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Ngl, I think the Kisnorbo move would be the better idea.

But it does seem hard to land this season.
 
WishyWashy said:
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Starting to think we might get McCann....
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Amazing the different slants put on things either Sunderland or Newcastle according to mag journalists...all hyperbole and gushing and what if's for the mags and the exact opposite for us, trying to play down any seeds of excitement and ambition.
 
The Rolls Royce said:
I want to be positive about this, and will enjoy the initial euphoria. But there's just part of me that feels like this isn't a great idea.

First of all, I feel that part of Keane's original success with us 14 years ago was to do with the fact he was managing players he had played with, or against, or even just who were professionals during the time he played. Not that current day players don't respect him, but I feel the 2008 players would have a better understanding of who Keane is and therefore deal with his personality better. Not to mention rightly or wrongly, modern players do tend to need a lighter touch. Perhaps Keane will adapt his style. I'm not sure.

Next of all, financially the game itself has changed so much. In 2008, we got promoted from the Championship with a spend of around 8million iirc, at the time one of the biggest spenders in the division. Nowadays teams are spending tens of millions and failing to get close. Granted COVID and situations like Derby and Sheff Wed should dissuade that behaviour somewhat. The point is we don't have the financial clout to cover up any managerial weaknesses Keane may have.

The game is also different tactically, I don't think you can get away with just motivating a team up the league anymore. There's a much greater focus on tactics and data than ever before, and again I have no idea how well Keane would adapt to that.

If he is the new manager I will support him, and I am ready to be proven totally wrong but it just feels like an appeal to emotion not logic.
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Completely disagree with every point made here.. its still the same game 11 vs 11 and we don't really know what our financial capabilities are until we are promoted.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Ngl, I think the Kisnorbo move would be the better idea.

But it does seem hard to land this season.
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He's managed less games (senior mens team) in the aussie league than the total number of games we have played so far this season.

If he had a few seasons of coaching in europe in an assistant role or similar I'd maybe entertain the idea.

No thanks.
 
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TDalt said:
He was on Sky six months ago saying he’d “grab” Ole and ask “why are you playing Fred?”. I just don’t think it’s a good appointment.
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It’s entirely plausible that he hams it up when he’s on the telly, almost like he’s paid to play a character (same as Carragher, Neville and Souness).
 
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