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Roy Keane

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Somewhere in the corner of the globe the poster formerly known as Desfartes is crying himself to sleep right now.

He hated the keano
 
Amokachi said:
I think the point on his punditry jobs is important though, currently he's a pundit, if he has a disaster here he'll still walk into any pundit job.

Yeah it would be his last chance but he admits this himself, he said in an interview a while back he'd like 'one more chance' in management.
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He will - but that's not what he wants. So it absolutely carries a lot of risk for him.
 
As You Were said:
It’s a no lose situation for Keane, if he comes in and does shite he can say they weren’t his players,we were short of defenders etc. If he does well his reputation as a manager has been enhanced and he can either stay with us or go back to the media work and wait for other offers to come along.
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Yes, I agree there are no downsides for Keane. The positives for us are pretty obvious. We have a team and squad who have talent for this level and play good football but sometimes lack belief and backbone and I think this came from Johnson who was a bluffer. The concern is that we are setting the club up with a blue print to be the next Leicester or Southampton and that blueprint means that no coach is bigger than the club and than what they are trying to achieve. Roy Keane needs to buy into what we are trying to do. This is effectively year one of a longer plan. From that perspective having an intitial 17/20 game look at it makes sense. I am slightly concerned that KLD and Speakman have stars in their eyes.
 
Eggman said:
I think you probably know, but anyway ....

A lot has happened in the 15 years since Keane left Sunderland - whole careers have come and gone,not just here but in football in general.

Tactics have evolved, players attitudes and there influences towards a club have changed.

Even the most successful teams, currently Man City and Liverpool, evolve and change a winning team and formula because if you stand still in football, you end up being overtaken.

Would Keane have the same aura now that he had immediately after he retired ?

Will the likes of Doyle respond to someone he has only read about in the same way that Nosworthy responded back in 2006/7 ?

Does Keane have the exact hunger he showed back then ?

People change and so does football
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In what way have tactics evolved?
In what way have players attitudes changed?
In what way have Man City and Liverpool changed?
 
chriswallace85 said:
It means people like Roy Hodgson, whose managerial career started in the days of 2 points for a win, and had served an 18 year apprenticeship by the time he managed at USA 94, still has to come in and sort out the 'progressive' mess at a club like Watford if they want to stay in the Premier League.
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Eggman said:
I think you probably know, but anyway ....

A lot has happened in the 15 years since Keane left Sunderland - whole careers have come and gone,not just here but in football in general.

Tactics have evolved, players attitudes and there influences towards a club have changed.

Even the most successful teams, currently Man City and Liverpool, evolve and change a winning team and formula because if you stand still in football, you end up being overtaken.

Would Keane have the same aura now that he had immediately after he retired ?

Will the likes of Doyle respond to someone he has only read about in the same way that Nosworthy responded back in 2006/7 ?

Does Keane have the exact hunger he showed back then ?

People change and so does football
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I get what you are saying when you are talking about the top premiership players . They have been looked after and mollycoddled from and early age and have so much wealth that they would react badly to an abrasive character like Keane or Di Canio. At our level though , players are not on vast sums and haven’t spent their whole career getting 5 star treatment . Those types of players actually need a job like the rest of us and would respond far better to the likes of Keane.
 
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