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Roy Keane

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Him and Defoe wouldn’t be the worst shout
Give the place a huge lift
 

Geronimo said:
Sadly Keane falls into the category of "failed manager" as his record clearly shows.
Been overlooked for years now. There's a reason for that
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We have been employing managers who failed in the first division or Championship!

Keane fell a bit short in the premier league after an amazing promotion. He's in the Farke, Dean Smith, Chris Wilder envelope. I would happily have any of them in charge. They have way better CV's and achievements than the likes of Johnson, Grayson and Parkinson. A totally different level.
 
mart said:
Keane at least has a promotion on his CV tbf.
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He has, but we have players in our squad who were in nappies when he got that promotion.

It was great at the time, but he's not had a successful season in management in over a decade. It's backwards.

Keith S30S said:
We have been employing manager's who failed in the first division or Championship!

Keane fell a bit short in the premier league after an amazing promotion. He's in the Farke, Dean Smith, Chris Wilder envelope. I would happily have any of them in charge. They have way better CV's than the likes of Johnson, Grayson and Parkinson. A totally different level
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Is someone like Billy Davies in your category then? Would you be happy with him? Haway man, Keane isn't in that bracket. Not anymore.
 
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chriswallace85 said:
Up until a certain game, Chopra did an alright job for us, especially in that first season. You could argue his goal at Villa was the one that kept us up. We were a newly promoted side. What were people really expecting?

I'm not cherry picking. The good far outweighed the bad where his signings were concerned. Where they didn't work out, we invariably got our money back. The one exception there being McCartney, who became the forerunner of a problem that plagued the club long after Keane's departure, whereby we let him run his contract down. That wasn't Roy Keane's fault.
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A fair amount of his signings worked out, not sure i agree they far outweighed the bad but it's more than his scattergun approach led to us being stuck with alot of players on big contracts when they were no use to us (some were never even useful at all, did david healy ever even play for us? we were stuck with him for years iirc)
 
The Cabbage said:
But that’s not a promotion that’s built solely on sweat, determination and balls. Teams that go up may have some/all of those elements but they’re also good teams for their level who are well drilled, do specific things better than their rivals and more often than not have a plan. If it was only about having balls then that fat Scottish mess would have taken gillingham up years ago.

Keane’s punditry is great entertainment - but the vast majority of it is complete bollocks designed purely to appeal to the old heads who couldn’t successfully manage The Dog and Duck. He’s an intelligent man so perhaps he knows that this act is a successful meal ticket, but if it’s a true representation of his views on football, he’s most certainly yesterdays man.
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Well have to disagree on this mate.

Think we've all seen enough League One footy to have a valued opinion on it now (even if we have different views). All I see in this league is very limited teams, and the ones that are slightly better have a simple, but effective way of playing that they rarely deviate from.

I've yet to see any really blood or thunder to our play. Take Saturday for example, the players were already on the coach by the time the 3rd went in. If there's no leader on the field, then its imperative that there's one waiting in the dressing room at half time with some home truths and a way of changing the players mindset.....I think Roy would be capable of that at this level.

I'd also be behind your option of Big Sam if possible for a lot of the same reasons and the extra management experience.
 
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Mboma said:
Thing is, Keane is still as relevant and is as big box office as he was when he walked thru the doors of the academy all that time ago. People still take notice when he says something and I've no doubt the younger lads would absolutely buzz off being managed by him, whilst the older lads would at least be able to respect what Keane has done in the game to take instruction.

Maybe something that could be looked at is the coaches who would come in alongside Keane, maybe that's where the fresh thinking could come from? Although I don't think much has changed in terms of playing league one football that Keane would be that much of a dinosaur....he's currently employed as a pundit to watch and keep up with the modern game.

I don't think he's a bad shout, probably better than most the names on the usual lists.
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Well said that man 👏👏
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Mboma said:
Maybe mate, but I think he'd do a better job than most of the names I've seen being mentioned. He'd also have done a better job than the bunch we've had in since we've been down here.
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Why do you think that. He had one good season with us before he bottled it and failed at Ipswich before running away to do media work.
 
Hep said:
Why do you think that. He had one good season with us before he bottled it and failed at Ipswich before running away to do media work.
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2 good seasons*

Hardly bottled it. Was his first job in management. Was ultimately inexperienced in the PL and it was time for us to part ways at the time. Didn't disgrace the club like Moyes for example at the end either.

Some people talk utter dirt about him which is mental considering where he took us from.

Not been a feel good factor around the entire City like that since (maybe with BSA). People forget how exciting those times were.
 
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FulwellViaLeeds said:
He has, but we have players in our squad who were in nappies when he got that promotion.

It was great at the time, but he's not had a successful season in management in over a decade. It's backwards.



Is someone like Billy Davies in your category then? Would you be happy with him? Haway man, Keane isn't in that bracket. Not anymore.
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Billy Davies who went up through the play offs rather than as Champions? Davies who left Derby when they adrift at the bottom of the league rather than a team who were struggling but not in a hopeless position.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
 
Hep said:
Why do you think that. He had one good season with us before he bottled it and failed at Ipswich before running away to do media work.
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He kept us in the Premiership and would of again before falling out with Short.

He'd do well in this league when you look at the state of some whose managing in this league.
 
Coeus said:
Given he was pretty aggravated in his interview with Neville over the increasing popularity of philosophies, I'm not sure how well they would get on.
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Aye, philosophies and models are an important part of the modern game. The days put'em under pressure and get in their face are gone.
 
Mboma said:
Whats moved one in League One? There's no- one playing total football in this league apart from our last knacker with his protocols and POMOS....look where that got us against Bolton.

All you need down here is someone the players will take notice of and to play the game simple enough for the League One standard players to understand.

I feel we're trying to be too clever when all you need is some sweat, determination and some balls to get out of this league.
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I would have him but players nowadays are absolute wet wipes
 
Keith S30S said:
Billy Davies who went up through the play offs rather than as Champions? Davies who left Derby when they adrift at the bottom of the league rather than a team who were struggling but not in a hopeless position.

You're comparing apples to oranges.
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Well, Farke and Wilder both left their clubs at the bottom of the table, unlike Keane. Also unlike Keane, Wilder has been able bounce back in his next job and improve a Championship team and turn them into promotion contenders, whereas Keane went approximately nowhere with Ipswich. Farke has took a job in another country. And they've had success in the present day, whereas when Keane last had success as a manager Tony Blair was still Prime Minister and smartphones didn't exist.

If anyone's comparing apples to oranges, it's you.
 
FulwellViaLeeds said:
Well, Farke and Wilder both left their clubs at the bottom of the table, unlike Keane. Also unlike Keane, Wilder has been able bounce back in his next job and improve a Championship team and turn them into promotion contenders, whereas Keane went approximately nowhere with Ipswich. Farke has took a job in another country. And they've had success in the present day, whereas when Keane last had success as a manager Tony Blair was still Prime Minister and smartphones didn't exist.

If anyone's comparing apples to oranges, it's you.
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Keane would give us an outstanding chance of promotion this season. Bookmark it.
 
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