Roker near Sunderland

[CPLforever]

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Three people asked me where I came from all had heard of Sunderland

This no one knows where or has never heard of Sunderland is bollocks, in my experience. I always say I’m from Sunderland if asked (although I live in Durham city) and of course any one who follows football always know of it.

OK so I'm only 200 miles up the road but loads of people love my accent, can tell I am not from North of the Tyne, and ask "so you're a Mackem". Some do ask if I am a Geordie, and always apologise and understand when I take great umbrage to this.

When I am abroad and people ask where am I from and I tell them Glasgow, they always ask Celtic or Rangers. Football, loved the world over

Hope you had a smashing smashing time @KarenDent drank loads of port and bet you are looking fabulous for your week in the sun.

 

[Lord Potts]

Sunderland global media is pure AIDS. Awful page.

Being the biggest settlement within the old borders of the country of Durham its only natural that the growth & expansion of Sunderland would mean that outlying settlements would be brought within the administrative boundaries of the City rather than remain in County Durham. That's a process that has gone on for years.

Southwick now practically in the middle of Sunderland was for example only incorporated in to the town boundaries as recently as 1900 until then it had been a village on the outskirts of town. More recently the same thing has happened to the former villages of Silksworth Ryhope Grangetown Castletown & East Herrington etc etc. It's how cities grow.

I can guarantee that within another 30 years every location in the current boundaries of what is now the City of Sunderland will be without question simply regarded as they are already as part of "Sunderland" and that does include Washy & Penshaw.

There's no escape... RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

 

[League Wan]

Another one , they're actually correcting me when I've pointed it out, it's in Sunderland

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[Zimba]

Being the biggest settlement within the old borders of the country of Durham its only natural that the growth & expansion of Sunderland would mean that outlying settlements would be brought within the administrative boundaries of the City rather than remain in County Durham. That's a process that has gone on for years.

Southwick now practically in the middle of Sunderland was for example only incorporated in to the town boundaries as recently as 1900 until then it had been a village on the outskirts of town. More recently the same thing has happened to the former villages of Silksworth Ryhope Grangetown Castletown & East Herrington etc etc. It's how cities grow.

I can guarantee that within another 30 years every location in the current boundaries of what is now the City of Sunderland will be without question simply regarded as they are already as part of "Sunderland" and that does include Washy & Penshaw.

There's no escape... RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

I know you posted this months ago but I'm pretty sure that the 30 year thing won't happen, to the vast majority of people, Sunderland ends at the A19 and I'll be surprised if that ever changes. It's no different that places like Ryton and Greenside aren't Gateshead, Wigan isn't Manchester and Wetherby and Garforth aren't Leeds.

Seaham and Whitburn are more part of Sunderland than Washington and Houghton but someone put a council / county border between them.

 

[Stubbs ftm]

I know you posted this months ago but I'm pretty sure that the 30 year thing won't happen, to the vast majority of people, Sunderland ends at the A19 and I'll be surprised if that ever changes. It's no different that places like Ryton and Greenside aren't Gateshead, Wigan isn't Manchester and Wetherby and Garforth aren't Leeds.

Seaham and Whitburn are more part of Sunderland than Washington and Houghton but someone put a council / county border between them.

As a towny who moved out to Pensher, i always class Pensher as Sunderland. Never put Houghton on my address.

 

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I know you posted this months ago but I'm pretty sure that the 30 year thing won't happen, to the vast majority of people, Sunderland ends at the A19 and I'll be surprised if that ever changes. It's no different that places like Ryton and Greenside aren't Gateshead, Wigan isn't Manchester and Wetherby and Garforth aren't Leeds.

Seaham and Whitburn are more part of Sunderland than Washington and Houghton but someone put a council / county border between them.

Washington, Houghton and Hetton are part of Sunderland, that's a fact. Only mags would say other wise.

 

[Zimba]

Washington, Houghton and Hetton are part of Sunderland, that's a fact. Only mags would say other wise.

Why do the signs in Houghton Le Spring point you towards Sunderland if it's part of Sunderland?

Just because someone drew some lines in 1974 which don't make it automatically part of that place to most people. You might want to go tell ASDA, B&Q and M&S that they've got their shops in the wrong place in Middlesbrough and need to update it to Redcar.

The Metropolitan area council areas are just a mess, I'm sure someone drew them when they were pissed, especially in Teesside.

As a towny who moved out to Pensher, i always class Pensher as Sunderland. Never put Houghton on my address.

Aye can't argue about that, was more about from someone outside the area more than locals. I'd probably do the same there as it's not part of Houghton either really, own little place.

 

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Why do the signs in Houghton Le Spring point you towards Sunderland if it's part of Sunderland?

Just because someone drew some lines in 1974 which don't make it automatically part of that place to most people. You might want to go tell ASDA, B&Q and M&S that they've got their shops in the wrong place in Middlesbrough and need to update it to Redcar.

The Metropolitan area council areas are just a mess, I'm sure someone drew them when they were pissed, especially in Teesside.




Aye can't argue about that, was more about from someone outside the area more than locals. I'd probably do the same there as it's not part of Houghton either really, own little place.

Bloody he'll, so your argument is road signs.

How about that git big sign on the A690 with says the City of Sunderland before you get to Houghton. Thats a bit of a give away

 

[Lord Potts]

I know you posted this months ago but I'm pretty sure that the 30 year thing won't happen, to the vast majority of people, Sunderland ends at the A19 and I'll be surprised if that ever changes. It's no different that places like Ryton and Greenside aren't Gateshead, Wigan isn't Manchester and Wetherby and Garforth aren't Leeds.

Seaham and Whitburn are more part of Sunderland than Washington and Houghton but someone put a council / county border between them.

When I was a lad (in the 1960's) the A19 ran down Burdon Road along Fawcett Street accross the Wearmouth Bridge then up Newcastle Road. The A19 was diverted on to it's present course in the early 1970's.

Roads aren't permanent or natural borders like rivers are. Their names and courses are regularly altered especially when they run throught he middle of a city

 

[WHD]

Bloody he'll, so your argument is road signs.

How about that git big sign on the A690 with says the City of Sunderland before you get to Houghton. Thats a bit of a give away

They are part of the Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland, but they aren't part of the "settlement" of Sunderland. The Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland consists of four settlements, Sunderland, Washington, Houghton and Hetton and is named after it's largest settlement. We wouldn't be having this argument if in 1974 they had named the Metropolitan Borough "Wearside".

 

[mad cyril]

Seen this in the press a lot, pic of Roker or Seaburn beach, described as near Sunderland. Or even no mention of Sunderland at all.

Both are very much Sunderland.

Just heard on 6 Music, Whitburn described as Tyneside.

Also quite regular when the biggest place between Edinburgh and Leeds doesnt get a mention on the weather map.

Any others?

Whitburn is Tyneside isn’t it ??

 

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They are part of the Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland, but they aren't part of the "settlement" of Sunderland. The Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland consists of four settlements, Sunderland, Washington, Houghton and Hetton and is named after it's largest settlement. We wouldn't be having this argument if in 1974 they had named the Metropolitan Borough "Wearside".

City of Sunderland. Simple as that

It's like saying Ryhope and South Hylton aren't part of Sunderland because they weren't prior to 1974
It's like saying Gosfoth isn't part of Newcastle based on the same reasons

 

[Lord Potts]

Why do the signs in Houghton Le Spring point you towards Sunderland if it's part of Sunderland?

I seem to remember an old signpost in Southwick in the late 1950's that was at the junction of Church Bank and Sunderland Road that directed traffic to "Sunderland".

Southwick has been part of the Borough of Sunderland since around 1900.

 

[Zimba]

Bloody he'll, so your argument is road signs.

How about that git big sign on the A690 with says the City of Sunderland before you get to Houghton. Thats a bit of a give away

No the argument is where someone will go in going to Sunderland whereabouts Seaburn. No-one will go I'm going to Sunderland whereabouts Hetton ever.

Just the same as I don't go to Leeds, whereabouts Wetherby.

When I was a lad (in the 1960's) the A19 ran down Burdon Road along Fawcett Street accross the Wearmouth Bridge then up Newcastle Road. The A19 was diverted on to it's present course in the early 1970's.

Roads aren't permanent or natural borders like rivers are. Their names and courses are regularly altered especially when they run throught he middle of a city

Aye no arguments about the road, it just runs where the boundary where it is. The green belt is probably better feature. The thing is literally there to stop Sunderland expanding to the villages and towns outside of it.

 

[WHD]

City of Sunderland. Simple as that

It's like saying Ryhope and South Hylton aren't part of Sunderland because they weren't prior to 1974

Not really, when Ryhope and South Hylton are villages. Washington, Houghton etc are towns, with their own town centres, different postcodes etc. I also agree with Zimba, when you are in Washington or Houghton, if you followed signposts to the "town centre" you wouldn't end up in Fawcett Street, you'd end up in their own town centres. To get to Sunderland, you would need to follow the signs to "Sunderland".

And do people from Washington and Houghton class themselves as Mackems? Half of the population of Washington are mags and hate mackems. Do they hate themselves?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

They are part of the Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland, but they aren't part of the "settlement" of Sunderland. The Metropolitan Borough of Sunderland consists of four settlements, Sunderland, Washington, Houghton and Hetton and is named after its largest settlement. We wouldn't be having this argument if in 1974 they had named the Metropolitan Borough "Wearside".

As a lad who spent my earliest years in Washington and went to school there and all my mates are from there, I agree with this. Nobody I know from Washington, red and white or black and white, considers themselves from Sunderland or Washington to be in ‘proper’ Sunderland, rather than just under the City of Sunderland borough/council. I see Washington as a town in its own right with its own identity. It’s mental how different the accents even are between say Barmston and Sulgrave and South Hylton and Town End Farm.

 

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No the argument is where someone will go in going to Sunderland whereabouts Seaburn. No-one will go I'm going to Sunderland whereabouts Hetton ever.

Just the same as I don't go to Leeds, whereabouts Wetherby.



Aye no arguments about the road, it just runs where the boundary where it is. The green belt is probably better feature. The thing is literally there to stop Sunderland expanding to the villages and towns outside of it.

Not really, when Ryhope and South Hylton are villages. Washington, Houghton etc are towns, with their own town centres, different postcodes etc. I also agree with Zimba, when you are in Washington or Houghton, if you followed signposts to the "town centre" you wouldn't end up in Fawcett Street, you'd end up in their own town centres. To get to Sunderland, you would need to follow the signs to "Sunderland".

And do people from Washington and Houghton class themselves as Mackems? Half of the population of Washington are mags and hate mackems. Do they hate themselves?

How ridiculous. Basically both are you are arguing against facts

 

[Skylon]

Not really, when Ryhope and South Hylton are villages. Washington, Houghton etc are towns, with their own town centres, different postcodes etc. I also agree with Zimba, when you are in Washington or Houghton, if you followed signposts to the "town centre" you wouldn't end up in Fawcett Street, you'd end up in their own town centres. To get to Sunderland, you would need to follow the signs to "Sunderland".

And do people from Washington and Houghton class themselves as Mackems? Half of the population of Washington are mags and hate mackems. Do they hate themselves?

They are mackems,whether they class themselves as that or not.

 

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As a lad who spent my earliest years in Washington and went to school there and all my mates are from there, I agree with this. Nobody I know from Washington, red and white or black and white, considers themselves from Sunderland or Washington to be in ‘proper’ Sunderland, rather than just under the City of Sunderland borough/council. I see Washington as a town in its own right with its own identity. It’s mental how different the accents even are between say Barmston and Sulgrave and South Hylton and Town End Farm.

You may feel this be facts say otherwise

 

[Skylon]

As a lad who spent my earliest years in Washington and went to school there and all my mates are from there, I agree with this. Nobody I know from Washington, red and white or black and white, considers themselves from Sunderland or Washington to be in ‘proper’ Sunderland, rather than just under the City of Sunderland borough/council. I see Washington as a town in its own right with its own identity. It’s mental how different the accents even are between say Barmston and Sulgrave and South Hylton and Town End Farm.

I lived in Washy all my life and class myself as a mackem