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I’m willing to accept the fact that Newcastle have made a profit on transfers the past couple of years and understand the argument that Ashley should have given more to spend. However Rafa has still spent millions on absolute shite and wasted more or less every penny of what he’s been given. He’s always been poor in the transfer market (aquilani, Barry/alonso etc) so be grateful he hasn’t wasted £250m instead of £150m.

The main thing for me is that he’s always been a manager who’s teams play boring, defensive football, the kind of thing they’ve cried about with various other coaches. Last night and the weekend were awful performances and that’s on the managers shoulders only. The likes of BSA would be getting dogs abuse by now.
 

janey said:
He’s also starting to split the fans, slowly there is some dissent. That never ends well either
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They will get nothing at City, but they should have a chance of taking between 2-4 points from Arsenal/Palace. As it stands however, Rafa’s negativity is making things worse and two defeats is very possible.

Because of his contract, I can’t see Rafa walking away, but he very much appears to be a man that would happily be pushed to escape.
 
Framing The Moment said:
So no away fans ?
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I was listening to Talksport the other day and Adrian Durham was laying into Benitez, was fair enough what he was saying tbh, he was saying forget Ashley and his lack of investment and let's concentrate on RB and his tactics v Chelsea which were shocking.

Anyway, I think it was a Huddersfield supporter who rang in and said that the 55 thousand Geordies who go week in week out deserve better.

Just goes to show repeat a lie long enough and it sticks.

Question for the smb:
Have the mags ever had more than 50k inside the sports direct arena? Taking into consideration away fans, even with a low allocation and segregation is this possible?
 
The Beautiful Game said:
I’m willing to accept the fact that Newcastle have made a profit on transfers the past couple of years and understand the argument that Ashley should have given more to spend. However Rafa has still spent millions on absolute shite and wasted more or less every penny of what he’s been given. He’s always been poor in the transfer market (aquilani, Barry/alonso etc) so be grateful he hasn’t wasted £250m instead of £150m.

The main thing for me is that he’s always been a manager who’s teams play boring, defensive football, the kind of thing they’ve cried about with various other coaches. Last night and the weekend were awful performances and that’s on the managers shoulders only. The likes of BSA would be getting dogs abuse by now.
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The reality is; Big Sam didn’t manage Real Madrid.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
They will get nothing at City, but they should have a chance of taking between 2-4 points from Arsenal/Palace. As it stands however, Rafa’s negativity is making things worse and two defeats is very possible.

Because of his contract, I can’t see Rafa walking away, but he very much appears to be a man that would happily be pushed to escape.
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If they'd got a result last night I could see how they'd just grit their teeth through the man city game and get on with the games after.
But now - another demoralizing performance on Saturday and that's three kicks in the nads within seven days! Their confidence will be on the floor
 
cluffy said:
If they'd got a result last night I could see how they'd just grit their teeth through the man city game and get on with the games after.
But now - another demoralizing performance on Saturday and that's three kicks in the nads within seven days! Their confidence will be on the floor
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Joking aside that’s genuinely why I don’t know why he didn’t pick his strongest side last night. Shocks happen in football but it’s highly unlikely they will win on Saturday, so he really had little to lose and lots to gain, going for a win last night.
I do wonder if he is picking sides to prove his point and if he is, it’s to the detriment of the club and unfair on the supporters he claims to love.
 
janey said:
Joking aside that’s genuinely why I don’t know why he didn’t pick his strongest side last night. Shocks happen in football but it’s highly unlikely they will win on Saturday, so he really had little to lose and lots to gain, going for a win last night.
I do wonder if he is picking sides to prove his point and if he is, it’s to the detriment of the club and unfair on the supporters he claims to love.
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Hopefully its damage limitation at best.
 
Rafa can’t walk away as he will have to pay up the full value of his contract if he does so.

It seems ridiclous but it has been confirmed by George Caulkin and Rafa subsequently sacked his agent who negotiated that contract.

He’s stuck there whether he likes it or not. Ashley knows he won’t walk and all the talk is just noise.
 
It's the beginning of the end for Benitez at the mags.

If he's still tied into the contract in terms of paying back millions, he wont walk, if Ashley has to pay him off if he sacks him, he wont be sacked.

A slow, lingering. demise. Will he gradually lose the support of the players, knowing he'll not be there next season?
 
Secret Visage said:
It's the beginning of the end for Benitez at the mags.

If he's still tied into the contract in terms of paying back millions, he wont walk, if Ashley has to pay him off if he sacks him, he wont be sacked.

A slow, lingering. demise. Will he gradually lose the support of the players, knowing he'll not be there next season?
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This season could be so much fun :)
 
His press conferences lately, he looks a beaten man. His motivational speeches, he reminds me of Moyes and we all know how that ended with the players

At the end of the day, he HAS had money to spend, it is not as if he has had nothing but a player of Benitez status, is it not all about player development too. Why does he feel he has to spend millions and millions? Is this not exactly what Jose has been criticised for in the media lately?

The problem Rafa now has is his reputation is and will be in tatters. He cant walk if it is true about the monies he needs to pay back, but if he stays he is just going to come across as a poor whinge manager who cant motivate players. He may (I still don't think they will be relegated) but worst (or best case in our view haha) he is going to have 2 relegations on his Cv within 4 year

In terms of ownership, Ashley is nowhere near as bad as Short. Ashley has people in who run it like a business. Short just didn't have a scooby and we were not a million miles from administration and as a result we have been relegated back to back and he effectively withdrew funding in his final year
 
Next six games are

Sat
01-Sep
Manchester City (a)

Sat 15-Sep
Arsenal (h)

Sat
22-Sep
Crystal Palace (a)

Sat
29-Sep
Leicester City (h)

Sat
06-Oct
Manchester United (a)

Sat
20-Oct
Brighton (h)

Could easy be going into that Brighton game in late October bottom of the the table with 1 point on the board.
 
How much has he actually spent during his time there? I know this year he's obviously not had a boatload, but didn't he have enough in previous seasons to actually assemble a decent side?
 
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