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Rafa Out Bingo

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Narraback said:
I do too. In fact I think almost anyone except McClaren may have done. Thankfully for us your thick as pigshit board decided that the grinning kneecap was doing a good job and kept him on until it was far too late.

Mind saying that I still think Benitez was partly to blame for that dreadful performance at Villa.
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Of course, I've criticised Benitez for a couple of our performances, but what's done is done, unfortunately

Narraback said:
I do too. In fact I think almost anyone except McClaren may have done. Thankfully for us your thick as pigshit board decided that the grinning kneecap was doing a good job and kept him on until it was far too late.

Mind saying that I still think Benitez was partly to blame for that dreadful performance at Villa.
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Team selection, I meant to say, too
 
Billy2Sheds said:
No, it was awful, but I could say do you think the 2-6 at Everton was an improvement on Advocaat? He's trying to make us harder to beat, which he's achieved, but the rot had set way too deep, IMO
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The 2-6 at Everton cannot be compared to your performance at Villa. We hit the post twice before they scored and even at 2-2 we were having a right go which in the end cost us the game. Your performance at Villa was insipid.
 
Narraback said:
The 2-6 at Everton cannot be compared to your performance at Villa. We hit the post twice before they scored and even at 2-2 we were having a right go which in the end cost us the game. You performance at Villa was insipid.
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That's the only game I seen, so it was a bad comparison, but It was more the scoreline
 
Billy2Sheds said:
No, it was awful, but I could say do you think the 2-6 at Everton was an improvement on Advocaat? He's trying to make us harder to beat, which he's achieved, but the rot had set way too deep, IMO
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See, this is another 'fact' I don't get ......... Newcastle had a real chance only 2 games ago yet it's now being said 'it was too late'.

Newcastle were above Sunderland less than a week ago man :lol:

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If I had a business that was failing, I would appoint someone with a reputation of building failing businesses back up. I don't see any evidence of Benitez ever doing that.
 
Billy2Sheds said:
No, it was awful, but I could say do you think the 2-6 at Everton was an improvement on Advocaat? He's trying to make us harder to beat, which he's achieved, but the rot had set way too deep, IMO
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Wtf has the 6.2 at Everton got to do with it ? Your team is back in the Championship nobhead, adios.
 
Reiver said:
See, this is another 'fact' I don't get ......... Newcastle had a real chance only 2 games ago yet it's now being said 'it was too late'.

Newcastle were above Sunderland less than a week ago man :lol:

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They fucked up by not beating Villa.
 
Billy2Sheds said:
Of course, I've criticised Benitez for a couple of our performances, but what's done is done, unfortunately


Team selection, I meant to say, too
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To be honest I think if he came a lot earlier he would have made a difference. He is a proven manager no question about that. My main issue is with those that think hes done a good job - he clearly hasn't. He came in with 10 games to go or so and 5 of them were very winnable and in the crucial games against Norwich, Sunderland and Villa he was partly responsible. Good manager, would be great for you if he stayed but to say he has done a good job is plain wrong.
 
There's an easy answer to the OP: Do you think you'd have finished above Newcastle with Benitez in charge there at the start?

Anyway, Defoe is now live on 5Live and it's nice to hear from him.
 
Reiver said:
See, this is another 'fact' I don't get ......... Newcastle had a real chance only 2 games ago yet it's now being said 'it was too late'.

Newcastle were above Sunderland less than a week ago man :lol:
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They had Villa to play and we had Chelsea.
 
Reiver said:
...... is crystallising.

Bit by bit, thanks to the likes of Thewliss and the rest of the media, the myth is being carved in stone that 'if only Rafa had come in a month earlier' they would've avoided relegation and would now be starting the march to glory ...... well it's bollocks.

Under McClaren the cry was always 'loads of quality, just need a little organisation', I saw it posted on here dozens of times.

When Benitez was appointed he repeated that 'fact' and pointed out why they would stay up. "We need to give the players confidence. I know we have ability,” he says, "I’m here because I believe we’re good enough to stay in the Premier League.”

He was given huge wages and an open hand to do whatever it took to save the club from relegation.
He said he could do the job, with that squad, in the time he had.
Tufty was derided for insisting they were improving ......... Newcastle were rubbish against Villa but it isn't the fault of the latest Messiah, no sir.

In reality, whatever the claims that he's 'tightened up the defence' or 'instilled a new ethic' they're still shite.

The facts, rather than the fiction, are that since he arrived Newcastle have failed against Sunderland, Norwich & Villa. The new improved defence conceded 8 goals in the 3 away games before Villa and they only managed 3 on target shots at Villa Park ........ Villa had conceded an average of 3 goals in the 5 previous games.

In a game Newcastle simply had to win, Benitez got the tactics, selection and substitutions wrong.

So now Ashley has to take the blame, as usual, because King Rafa was 'brought in too late'.

I truly hope he stays, as everyone seems to be praying for, and makes a complete fuck up as he's done so far.
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Their Lawrie Mac
 
Reiver said:
See, this is another 'fact' I don't get ......... Newcastle had a real chance only 2 games ago yet it's now being said 'it was too late'.

Newcastle were above Sunderland less than a week ago man :lol:

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With it still in your hands. What were McClaren's points per game ratio, compared to Benitez?
 
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