SYB_DC
Striker
I think you can look down and see where you're actually flying and trace that path on a map, you fruitcake.
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Put a flat earthier into space
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Nukehasslefan
Winger
Horizon is always at eye level.
Now you can argue it to be slightly off if it suits you but your globe could never offer any of it.
Looking down or up offers nothing.
Straight ahead allows you to see your theoretical horizon line.
Just another simple and easy dismissal of a globe.
Aye, you can map landmass by looking down but you'll never see any horizon line unless you look horizontally.
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SYB_DC
Striker
I look down and see that the places we're flying over match what is expected on a great circle path taken on a globe.
You don't seem to be able to consider more than one concept at once. I wasn't talking about the horizon.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
You're making no sense whatsoever and yet you think it proves something.
"globe could never offer any of it" The globe offers what the globe is, it's just a globe. Whichever direction you look it curves down into the distance away from you. That is exactly why there is a horizon. You have some seriously crossed wires if you think this or planes in any way disprove the globe.
Hep
Striker
The orbits of the planets around the sun
Pink Panther
Striker
If a pilot closes his eyes, is he still a liar?
If a lemon floats in the bath (or basin) does this rule anything out?
If we deny science but make up non-science would the wave machine still work at the swimming baths?
Was Dr Dolittle full of shite when he was on about the Pushmi-Pullyu and it actually should be a Pushmi-Pushyu?
Find out all of this and more in the next riveting 100 pages of this thread.
If a lemon floats in the bath (or basin) does this rule anything out?
If we deny science but make up non-science would the wave machine still work at the swimming baths?
Was Dr Dolittle full of shite when he was on about the Pushmi-Pullyu and it actually should be a Pushmi-Pushyu?
Find out all of this and more in the next riveting 100 pages of this thread.
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Not quite from my own garden, but if I knew someone a couple of hundred miles away we could both do it from our gardens.
Yes they do, the plane systems automatically maintains the same altitude above the ground. This has been confirmed by pilots, either experienced or amateur. I think they know more about the subject matter than you. Or are all pilots in on the act too?
All fake though isnt it?
All fake though isnt it?
Aye, wolfie 6020 may well be an experienced international airline pilot, but he's also clearly a shill in hock to NASA's jewish masonic penguins.
DaveH
Striker
You are on to a loser with this one. He doesn't know what the horizon is. See this page and a few pages that follows:
No horizon on the picture I posted.
There was another discussion somewhere where we imagined a person on a globe standing on a tower of ANY height, so I suggested a small box. We agreed that if you look up you would see sky. We agreed that if you looked down you would see the ground under your feet. We could not agree that logically there must be some stage in between where you could see both the ground and the sky at the same time. I even talked through, so you are looking at your feet, you tilt your head up and you can see land further away, tilt it up more and see even further away and then what happens? Is it literally a bang and you can only see sky. He said yes, on a globe it would be impossible to see both.
There is no scope for discussion following a statement like that. There has been many foolish things said on this thread, but that is so unbelievably stupid it is best to just whistle and walk away.
You have to remember that logic, reason and proof has no place here. You are talking about a deeply held religious belief. Imagine telling a devout Christian that the world was not build in 7 days with sheep and pigs as we know them now, and it was not all wiped out about 2500 years ago in a great flood, leaving the earth to be populated again. There are some that would see you as a heretic and say the bible is all the proof you need. His fantasy is all the proof he needs. Invented in his own head and sworn by no matter what.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
I know, but I would like to get a better idea of what exactly his idea of a horizon is, how and why it cant exist on a globe, why we cannot look at it and how planes disprove the globe. He will claim to have answered that above but he only offered some cackbabble about the globe curving further if you fly above it.
Well his projector/dome nonsense needs either a big slice of conscious design or a huge amount of unexplainable magical mindreading ability, or both. Not sure to what extent he realises that. His failure to understand how reflections work possibly prevents that penny from dropping.
DaveH
Striker
I wonder if Roger can put a Captca on login "Tick all the pictures that show a horizon". If he never logs in again we know he was stumped.
He did admit that the images of planets probably had to be deliberate. Which puts an intelligence pre-dating human civilisation in control of it. He got into a loop about his atmospheric stacking, because the lower stacks are higher pressure with crushed molecules, but the stacks form because of the molecule size, meaning it invents itself or you need another invisible force at play. Loads of conspiracy theorists get caught up on this one and pretty much end up saying there must be something else which is absolutely not gravity to make it work. Add the intelligence control to it and you have a fantasy model that involves a god and renamed gravity.
The Snockerty Friddle
Winger
He does a good demo explaining how the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere and both Sun and Moon set in different directions using a globe and a tiny camera
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Nukehasslefan
Winger
Of course, you see what's expected on a great circle path. You're told it's a great circle path but the reality is you#'re looking down at land or sea and have absolutely no clue as to whether you're taking any great circle path or simply flying level over land or sea.
Of course, the logic is to know you're flying level over land and sea but logic was replaced with official narratives of going over a big curve.
And as for the horizon. I've seen it argued many times that we apparently see the horizon due to looking down at Earth's curve. I've said it before and I'll say it again if Earth is supposedly a globe then it would have to curve away and down from your vision, meaning you would have to look down to see the ground but we see the horizon at level, so going up in a plane would take your vision higher than any curve so negates that argument.
One argument kills off another all of the time with this global shenanigan.
To you, I'm not. I'm a nutter remember who knows nothing so obviously I'm going to make no sense.
And you're arguing for it and I'm arguing as to why it isn't, so I think it's massively relevant.
This is exactly why there cannot be any horizon. That's the point. And being in a plane at height makes the situation worse for global arguing.
Not at all. I have some serious logical evidence for Earth not being a globe.
Tell me how they manage to orbit the sun.
As you do so maybe you can offer why they manage to elliptically orbit the sun.
I know it's all there for you but I'd like your take.
How?
How?
I suggest they know they're flying level and also they know their planes do not adjust for curvature but will adjust to keep level flight.
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taipeisafc
Striker
That piece sums up your utter lack on any conceptual understanding - it is completely wrong and nonsense. That is why I think you are a troll as there is nobody stupid enough to actually believe this stuff and think that is evidence of a non global earth.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
And that answer offers absolutely nothing of anything to the argument.
Pink Panther
Striker
We see the horizon at level.
RichB
Winger
Can I ask do you believe in alien life forms and UFO's?
Can't recall where I read it but there was an article about people who believe in these alternative facts ( conspiracy theories) often believe in several things that completely contradict each other.
So if a flat earther believes in aliens and a cover up I have no idea how these two belief systems can co-exist
Stand on the beach at tynemouth and you can see the horizon.
Stand on the promenade and you can't see it.
Stand on the promenade and you can't see it.
