Put a flat earthier into space

[Nukehasslefan]

Well it is an invented fantasy you stick by and evidence against it is so easy to find. I'm not sure what else I'd call it.

I think you're talking about your spinning globe in a space vacuum an d all the absolute gunk that goes with that.

 

[legend7]

I think you're talking about your spinning globe in a space vacuum an d all the absolute gunk that goes with that.

You're the one that admits you have zero proof of your world, just musings.
Can't even share 1 experiment.....

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Hmm the thing is when I was in Cuba the beach actually faces the so called North Pole and indeed it sloped down into the sea.
In fact on Gran Canaria beaches on opposite sides of the island both sloped down into the sea so how does that prove your overall gradient in one direction.

The gradient isn't in one dirtection. The gradient is all around.

You say you've observed it under the sea so you must have an idea of the actual gradient or are we saying we should use the beach to the sea as a rough idea, as that's a fairly steady 1 in 20 if you use Roker as an example, I'd much rather use your knowledge than guess though, so very roughly what do you estimate it at saying as you have been under the sea to observe it?

Keep going, I'm sure you think you're getting somewhere.

You're the one that admits you have zero proof of your world, just musings.
Can't even share 1 experiment.....

Do the jigsaw. Or don't. It's up to you and, as I said, it has no bearing on me.

 

[DaveH]

I think you're talking about your spinning globe in a space vacuum an d all the absolute gunk that goes with that.

A desperate retort. No defence for your completely undetected and undocumented pressure wave, or are we both agreeing that part is a fantasy?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

A desperate retort.

Not desperate, just being honest.

No defence for your completely undetected and undocumented pressure wave, or are we both agreeing that part is a fantasy?

No need for any defence. It is what I said it is. A musing and what I have to push me that way is my own experiments.
You have zero for a spinning globe but you are in possession of a multitude of stories, which is fine but not proof of anything like what we're told, so...well, who's desperate?

 

[What A Waster]

Not desperate, just being honest.

No need for any defence. It is what I said it is. A musing and what I have to push me that way is my own experiments.
You have zero for a spinning globe but you are in possession of a multitude of stories, which is fine but not proof of anything like what we're told, so...well, who's desperate?

You.

 

[legend7]

The gradient isn't in one dirtection. The gradient is all around.

Keep going, I'm sure you think you're getting somewhere.

Do the jigsaw. Or don't. It's up to you and, as I said, it has no bearing on me.

So not a gradient from the lower bowl to a high centre like a lemon squeezer, or the map you said was representative of your world. Feels like you're creating a totally different world to the one you described a year ago.
Tell me more, so the landmasses aren't like the ones you agreed were representative, it's only about 17000 miles across now so even if the central area was really small, say 1000 miles that leaves only 8000 miles of inhabitable area from there to the edge in all directions.
You agree that a highway in Africa alone that is 6000 miles long is probably accurate so africa pretty much goes from our so called South Pole to our so called North Pole yet doesn't seem to get the weather variations of other countries that are close to the poles.
Also doesn't leave much room for Europe which sits above it, I've travelled from Europe to Africa on a boat and I know which direction I went in.
Surely north Africa must be bloody freezing if its near the central uninhabitablearea, was very hot when I was in Egypt mind?

 

[Pink Panther]

So not a gradient from the lower bowl to a high centre like a lemon squeezer, or the map you said was representative of your world. Feels like you're creating a totally different world to the one you described a year ago.
Tell me more, so the landmasses aren't like the ones you agreed were representative, it's only about 17000 miles across now so even if the central area was really small, say 1000 miles that leaves only 8000 miles of inhabitable area from there to the edge in all directions.
You agree that a highway in Africa alone that is 6000 miles long is probably accurate so africa pretty much goes from our so called South Pole to our so called North Pole yet doesn't seem to get the weather variations of other countries that are close to the poles.
Also doesn't leave much room for Europe which sits above it, I've travelled from Europe to Africa on a boat and I know which direction I went in.
Surely north Africa must be bloody freezing if its near the central uninhabitablearea, was very hot when I was in Egypt mind?

Facts, facts, facts. What about water? Have you even looked in a basin?

 

[DaveH]

Not desperate, just being honest.

No need for any defence. It is what I said it is. A musing and what I have to push me that way is my own experiments.
You have zero for a spinning globe but you are in possession of a multitude of stories, which is fine but not proof of anything like what we're told, so...well, who's desperate?

So what experiments have you done that proves this undetectable pressure wave, given that I have firm evidence against it's existence?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So not a gradient from the lower bowl to a high centre like a lemon squeezer, or the map you said was representative of your world.

Pay attention to what I did say about the picture I offered and you wouldn't need to waste your time.

Feels like you're creating a totally different world to the one you described a year ago.

No. You are doing that for yourself and that's not my issue.

Tell me more, so the landmasses aren't like the ones you agreed were representative, it's only about 17000 miles across now so even if the central area was really small, say 1000 miles that leaves only 8000 miles of inhabitable area from there to the edge in all directions.

You seem to know it all so you go with whatever you decide and it may offer you whatever you decide.
As for me, I know what I go with.

You agree that a highway in Africa alone that is 6000 miles long is probably accurate so africa pretty much goes from our so called South Pole to our so called North Pole yet doesn't seem to get the weather variations of other countries that are close to the poles.

I agree about the road. The position? No.

Also doesn't leave much room for Europe which sits above it,

Or does it?

I've travelled from Europe to Africa on a boat and I know which direction I went in.

Good for you.

So what experiments have you done that proves this undetectable pressure wave, given that I have firm evidence against it's existence?

You have zero evidence against its existence.

 

[legend7]

Pay attention to what I did say about the picture I offered and you wouldn't need to waste your time.

No. You are doing that for yourself and that's not my issue.

You seem to know it all so you go with whatever you decide and it may offer you whatever you decide.
As for me, I know what I go with.

I agree about the road. The position? No.

Or does it?

Good for you.

You have zero evidence against its existence.

OK I'm not on about the picture but you did say it was representative.
So to clarify does your world look like a lemon squeezer with a raised central area and a lower outside bowl or not?
So which position do you believe that road is in. When you drive it your reflection sun rises in the si called East and sets in the so called West or has your view on that changed too?
Bearing in mind there is another very long highway that runs at 90 degrees to that one? TA 5 and 6 cover appx 6000 miles east to west?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

OK I'm not on about the picture but you did say it was representative.

By all means, use whatever you want to use but always remember you're not offering me anything with it.
I know what I said and if you take what I say and change it then that's all on you and has absolutely no bearing on what I think. But feel free to best guess or offer up anything you feel suits you and it may pacify you.

So to clarify does your world look like a lemon squeezer with a raised central area and a lower outside bowl or not?

I gave you a potential. You took it as a literal orange squeezer setup. I can't help you with that and you'll have to go with whatever you decide. Only you knock you back. I just offer you back what you offer me.

So which position do you believe that road is in.

It doesn't matter. More needs to be sorted before it comes around.
Let me make it clearer if I haven't already done so many times.

Your globe is fictional. Because it is fictional it means your landmasses are not where they say they are.
I've been trying to tell you for long enough about tweaking and you think a few dots on a circle will offer you some kind of proof of a globe because they don't fit according to you, who has never done a world map and neither has anyone else arguing for it. Nor myself.
So where does this leave us?
It leaves us arguing over something that's been put on a silver platter for you and it becomes accurate for you because....because a few roads show a distance and a belief that planes fly over a great circle/globe to a southern hemisphere.
And so on.

When you drive it your reflection sun rises in the si called East and sets in the so called West or has your view on that changed too?

Sets?
What does that actually mean?

Bearing in mind there is another very long highway that runs at 90 degrees to that one? TA 5 and 6 cover appx 6000 miles east to west?

There is no east or west and the south may be north. Think about that.
I'm sure someone will come along and mention Scotland to London is north or something like that. I'll smile and maybe offer a like for when the inevitable comes along.

 

[DaveH]

You have zero evidence against its existence.

Why have you ignored what I said about my graphing and tracking of pressure changes? This wave was not detected by my digital barometer and does not appear in any available pressure graph source. It has not been reported in any scientific paper that I am aware of.

This is the evidence against. If it existed it would show on barometric pressure readings, from a traditional analogue meter to a modern digital meter with the ability to record.

Why is this not evidence against?

 

[legend7]

By all means, use whatever you want to use but always remember you're not offering me anything with it.
I know what I said and if you take what I say and change it then that's all on you and has absolutely no bearing on what I think. But feel free to best guess or offer up anything you feel suits you and it may pacify you.

I gave you a potential. You took it as a literal orange squeezer setup. I can't help you with that and you'll have to go with whatever you decide. Only you knock you back. I just offer you back what you offer me.

It doesn't matter. More needs to be sorted before it comes around.
Let me make it clearer if I haven't already done so many times.

Your globe is fictional. Because it is fictional it means your landmasses are not where they say they are.
I've been trying to tell you for long enough about tweaking and you think a few dots on a circle will offer you some kind of proof of a globe because they don't fit according to you, who has never done a world map and neither has anyone else arguing for it. Nor myself.
So where does this leave us?
It leaves us arguing over something that's been put on a silver platter for you and it becomes accurate for you because....because a few roads show a distance and a belief that planes fly over a great circle/globe to a southern hemisphere.
And so on.

Sets?
What does that actually mean?

There is no east or west and the south may be north. Think about that.
I'm sure someone will come along and mention Scotland to London is north or something like that. I'll smile and maybe offer a like for when the inevitable comes along.

Hold on, to clarify.
YOU said the map was representative I take it you now say it isn't.
Regardless of a map I'm asking does your world have a raised centre and a lower outside bowl, let's keep it to facts not drawings.
There are numerous very long roads in the world, roads that you accept are accurate distance wise, could you put them as very simple lines on your world that is 17000 miles across in total.
There are 2 in Africa that run 90 degs to each other, as in if you drive one the "sun" will appear one side then pass over you to the other side as your long drive passes.
If you drive the other it will appear in front and pass behind you or vice versa, this must mean they do indeed run at roughly 90 degs to each other.
AH6 from vladivostock to St Petersburg is over 6000 miles long too, lot of straight lines here to fit in your 17000 miles wide map, could you start with just putting those 3 on roughly to scale nukey?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Why have you ignored what I said about my graphing and tracking of pressure changes?

This wave was not detected by my digital barometer and does not appear in any available pressure graph source. It has not been reported in any scientific paper that I am aware of.

Because they mean absolutely nothing. I think you mix up localised with your town and think it solves something. I can't help you with that and you'll just have to go along with what you want to decide.

This is the evidence against. If it existed it would show on barometric pressure readings, from a traditional analogue meter to a modern digital meter with the ability to record.

Why is this not evidence against?

You live on a supposed spinning globe so why are you checking a graph set up in your home to argue against something?

If you want to think a pressure pushing into your town os the cause of tides then I can't help you.

 

[BigPete]

 

[DaveH]

Because they mean absolutely nothing. I think you mix up localised with your town and think it solves something. I can't help you with that and you'll just have to go along with what you want to decide.


You live on a supposed spinning globe so why are you checking a graph set up in your home to argue against something?

If you want to think a pressure pushing into your town os the cause of tides then I can't help you.

What about the weather stations on small islands, on the coast where I live, on oil rigs and on ships. Ships especially track changes in barometric pressure because it can be a sign of weather changing, a storm coming in etc. None of these display the pressure wave of which you speak.

 

[Kevj]

Is Nukey about to state that there is a magic force we are unable to measure (therefore prove it’s existence), but he alone knows it’s the main motive force driving tides around the world?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Hold on, to clarify.
YOU said the map was representative I take it you now say it isn't.

Read what I said.

Regardless of a map I'm asking does your world have a raised centre and a lower outside bowl, let's keep it to facts not drawings.

The lower outside bowl. What does that even mean?
You were told the bowl forms into a dome. No edge, so where are you going with this?

What about the weather stations on small islands, on the coast where I live, on oil rigs and on ships. Ships especially track changes in barometric pressure because it can be a sign of weather changing, a storm coming in etc. None of these display the pressure wave of which you speak.

What pressure wave of what I speak?
If you think pressure does not alter then you go with it.

Is Nukey about to state that there is a magic force we are unable to measure (therefore prove it’s existence), but he alone knows it’s the main motive force driving tides around the world?

There is no magic force. The force is atmospheric pressure brought about by any dense mass displacement of it.
The magic you are referring to is called gravity. A fiction.

 

[legend7]

Read what I said.

The lower outside bowl. What does that even mean?
You were told the bowl forms into a dome. No edge, so where are you going with this?

Wow some deflection.
I'll ask again does your world have a higher centre than around the outer edge where your cell wall rises