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Put a flat earthier into space



DaveH said:
It is the no shadow at midday on the summer solstice if you are on the Tropic of Capricorn that has me.

To form no shadow, light has to travel vertically down. We can try this with any light source we want. Like I demonstrated the other day, you can't have this as a single reflection on any shape if the light source is at the same level as what you are shining it on.
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Vertically down, eh?
So this means your global Earth sun shines vertically down and casts no shadow......but..... for how many miles of Earth before a shadow appears. Any idea?
0verlord44 said:
yep, tons of it. End of thread
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Then I'm sure you can provide me with one proof, right?
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Vertically down, eh?
So this means your global Earth sun shines vertically down and casts no shadow......but..... for how many miles of Earth before a shadow appears. Any idea?

Then I'm sure you can provide me with one proof, right?
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you could be taken up in the shuttle, look at the earth with your own eyes and you'd still deny it.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
My Earth I go with is a cell. That is not flat.
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You still don't even understand what people mean when they say "flat earth".

Nobody thinks that flat earthers believe the earth is perfectly flat like a pool table. Everyone knows there are hills, valleys, mountains, canyons, bits that are close to sea level and bits that are high above sea level.

The difference between a globe earth and a flat earth is the layout. On a globe earth, these hills , valleys, mountains and canyons are on the top layer of an oblate spheroid, whereas on a "flat earth" the hills, valleys, mountains an canyons are on the top layer of a flattish non-spherical surface, like the base of a snowglobe or the bottom of a cell-shape, or a vinyl record spinning on a turntable.

Whether you like the term or not, you ARE a flat earther.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Vertically down, eh?
So this means your global Earth sun shines vertically down and casts no shadow......but..... for how many miles of Earth before a shadow appears. Any idea?

Then I'm sure you can provide me with one proof, right?
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Yes, it is well known at the summer solstice (might be winter actually) at the Tropic Of Capricorn that the sun is directly overhead at midday and there is no shadow. That can only be the sun shining vertically down. If this is not the case then I'm open to ideas of how a light source can not cast a shadow.

In theory the smallest distance away from that creates the smallest shadow, but clearly the smallest distance you move it the harder it is to measure. A shadow with the light source at 10 degrees should give a reasonable shadow, depending on the size of the object. Moving 690 miles should give a 10 degree shadow.

The dual prism arrangement should allow that on a dome.
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Though this of course could be a lie. I have never been in that range to observe that myself, though I have no reason to doubt it.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Ahhh right. If the dome was rough and dese areas of roughness then you would get changes.
This is simply hydrogen/helium frozen icicle build on a small scale which would have little effect of any changes of a moving energy over each part.
Think of it like a diffuser light reflector.
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Think of it like a big bag of words.
Nukehasslefan said:
We do not sense nor observe anything for a globe when 5 minutes of anyone's time is took to look at it unbiasedly.
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Several thousand years of observation, all pointing to the same conclusion with an accuracy that can predict such things as eclipses centuries in advance trumps your five minute glance at the sky.
You can test it for yourself by looking unbiasedly, but you wont, five minutes is not enough.
You can look at the stars and learn to know where they'll be at any point in the year, know what season it is by their positions, watch any number of sunrises and sunsets, watch countless constellations move across the sky in a perfectly predictable procession (none of which makes sense other than on a globe) and if you have enough about you to log on and type a message then you should have enough to either ...

a. Know we're on a globe
or
b. Come up with a more reasonable, sensible, believeable, consistent and provable theory than your lifetime of musing has produced thus far.
Nukehasslefan said:
It only makes perfect sense to you because you've been told it is.
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As above. You could check it for yourself but you wont.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Ahhh right. If the dome was rough and dese areas of roughness then you would get changes.
This is simply hydrogen/helium frozen icicle build on a small scale which would have little effect of any changes of a moving energy over each part.
Think of it like a diffuser light reflector.
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What size is small scale?

And sorry if this is a dumb question but what is a Diffuser Light Reflector?
 
DaveH said:
Yes, it is well known at the summer solstice (might be winter actually) at the Tropic Of Capricorn that the sun is directly overhead at midday and there is no shadow. That can only be the sun shining vertically down. If this is not the case then I'm open to ideas of how a light source can not cast a shadow.

In theory the smallest distance away from that creates the smallest shadow, but clearly the smallest distance you move it the harder it is to measure. A shadow with the light source at 10 degrees should give a reasonable shadow, depending on the size of the object. Moving 690 miles should give a 10 degree shadow.

The dual prism arrangement should allow that on a dome.
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Though this of course could be a lie. I have never been in that range to observe that myself, though I have no reason to doubt it.
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So basically twice a year.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Think of it like a big bag of words.

Several thousand years of observation, all pointing to the same conclusion with an accuracy that can predict such things as eclipses centuries in advance trumps your five minute glance at the sky.
You can test it for yourself by looking unbiasedly, but you wont, five minutes is not enough.
You can look at the stars and learn to know where they'll be at any point in the year, know what season it is by their positions, watch any number of sunrises and sunsets, watch countless constellations move across the sky in a perfectly predictable procession (none of which makes sense other than on a globe) and if you have enough about you to log on and type a message then you should have enough to either ...

a. Know we're on a globe
or
b. Come up with a more reasonable, sensible, believeable, consistent and provable theory than your lifetime of musing has produced thus far.

As above. You could check it for yourself but you wont.
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Yep, you can watch all of this under a dome from projections of good old Earth, not space vacuums with fiery light years stars and spinning planets and all the other gunk. In my opinion, of course.
DPTT said:
What size is small scale?

And sorry if this is a dumb question but what is a Diffuser Light Reflector?
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You asked what the roughness would be so I gave you an idea of it. No more than that.
payne said:
you could be taken up in the shuttle, look at the earth with your own eyes and you'd still deny it.
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If I was taken up in any craft I could look back at the Earth but I wouldn't be looking back at a spinning globe.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
So basically twice a year.

Yep, you can watch all of this under a dome from projections of good old Earth, not space vacuums with fiery light years stars and spinning planets and all the other gunk. In my opinion, of course.

You asked what the roughness would be so I gave you an idea of it. No more than that.

If I was taken up in any craft I could look back at the Earth but I wouldn't be looking back at a spinning globe.
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No shadow/sun directly overhead twice a year for any location between the tropics. So, every day the sun is directly over some point on earth.

Do you think your dome might have a couple of prisms like I suggested? Otherwise I’m struggling to see how the sunlight could travel as observed.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
So basically twice a year.

Yep, you can watch all of this under a dome from projections of good old Earth, not space vacuums with fiery light years stars and spinning planets and all the other gunk. In my opinion, of course.

You asked what the roughness would be so I gave you an idea of it. No more than that.

If I was taken up in any craft I could look back at the Earth but I wouldn't be looking back at a spinning globe.
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You still haven’t explained the mechanics of the shadow made by a stick.
 
DaveH said:
No shadow/sun directly overhead twice a year for any location between the tropics. So, every day the sun is directly over some point on earth.

Do you think your dome might have a couple of prisms like I suggested? Otherwise I’m struggling to see how the sunlight could travel as observed.
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It's already angled as it hits back to Earth. It's spread out. It acts just like a torch beam would.
DPTT said:
No you never!
You mentioned an icicle on a small scale, what the hell does that even mean?
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It means just what it says.
On your home you can have icicles form and as they grow they get to a stage when they fall due to dense mass build up and a thawing due to weather changes or the suns catching rays.

The same thing happens on the dome but the difference is, down here it's a different icicle structure and up at the dome it's a hydrogen/helium...etc, structure.

Where down here the structure is made up of much more molecular makeup and much more dense because of it.
Harry Angstrom said:
You still haven’t explained the mechanics of the shadow made by a stick.
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The mechanics of a shadow made by a stick?
What are you talking about.
The stick puts up a barrier to an angle sun beam and depending on that angle depends on the length of the shadow from it.
 
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If light is emitted from the centre of the earth (this huge hole which I think you say is your North?) would it be permanently daytime from this point all the way to the dome🤷‍♂️
 
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