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Put a flat earthier into space


Try religion.
Anything
can be drilled into the mindset of people who don't know any better.
How would the average Joe or Jane know what it was they were living on or who their god is?
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How many people believe in a god ?
How many sections of people, each in their millions believe in their own religion and god?
Can any of them be wrong?
One common theme I see popping up in your blabberings is religion and it being evidence that people believe what they are told. Religion started many centuries ago but people were far more susceptible compared to now. In a modern world, the belief in religion has declined since centuries ago and possibly quite a lot in just the last century. I'd dare say that in most developed countries religious belief will continue to fall and eventually in the future be a minority group or even cease to exist.

There's a reason for that drop as the evidence for religion isn't really that 'believable' and it's more about faith. Yet there's a shit load of evidence for the earth being a spinning globe which some may choose to ignore, including yourself and it's your right to believe what you want. Though most beliefs that are in the minority are normally based on a lack of evidence. This is something the human race will probably alway have and you've got your minority beliefs so enjoy it and all the attention you're getting here ;-)
 
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Yeah I'll go along with that.
So far agreed: Night/Day, Stars, North, Can measure angle to stars from horizon and stars appear to rotate around Polaris.

Ok, so if the world is a globe, and we took a cross section of that so that for easier drawing purposes, we could imagine 3 people standing on the outline of a circle, each would have their horizon pointing in different directions? As a diagram, circle represents the earth. A, B and C are three observers and the 3 lines I've drawn show their individual horizons. These are tangents to the circle and essentially at right angles to straight up for each person.

Agree? (Sorry that image came out bigger than I intended, it is a bit in your face!)
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You've given him some ammunition here mind by saying you believe in a God. In the same way he apparently believes in his supercell earth with no evidence, you're doing something very similar with your belief in a God with no evidence.
He says all of the evidence for a global earth is made up by story tellers yet the same is true for God.
Not wanting to turn this into a religious debate but you opened the door.
Then don’t
 
@Nukehasslefan I have stepped back from trying to provide evidence but I have found a video that is very interesting. I specifically think that Michelle Thaller has some very interesting points. There are also videos from the underside of the ISS where you can see close up items not distorted and a clear curve of the earth behind.

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The 2 main points that I like that are very easy to see are ships at sea and the lunar eclipse. Please watch and see what you think.
 
@Nukehasslefan I have stepped back from trying to provide evidence but I have found a video that is very interesting. I specifically think that Michelle Thaller has some very interesting points. There are also videos from the underside of the ISS where you can see close up items not distorted and a clear curve of the earth behind.

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The 2 main points that I like that are very easy to see are ships at sea and the lunar eclipse. Please watch and see what you think.

He doesnt believe in the ISS it isnt real in his musings and all space photos are faked - yes he is that stupid
 
He doesnt believe in the ISS it isnt real in his musings and all space photos are faked - yes he is that stupid
He has said that it could be a plane. A plane that moves really fast through the sky compared to any other plane, a plane that is always exactly where it is supposed to be (predictable by basic equations of orbits etc), a plane shaped like no other thing that can fly and a plane that nobody has ever seen land. So a very unusual plane. It also sends out radio signals that anyone with basic equipment can pick up.

Sounds a bit far fetched. But then consider a plane is not the only satellite we can see. It is the brightest by far, but sit out for just half an hour on a dark night, and you will spot dozens of them. Pick an astronomy app like Stellarium and you can add visible satellites to see how many of them there are. All moving in a very unlike plane way along predictable orbits, all detectable with radio even in day time, and all never seen landing.

The effort into faking satellites is huge and must be worth billions, including technology like we have never seen before. They could have just not thought of fake inventing them, or decided to say "we have 3, don't need any more", but no, an absolutely massive effort into fake satellites that the vast majority of the population would not notice anyway.

Faking it doesn't seem likely does it? Or indeed possible.
 
To be fair, that's the kind of response we are getting from Nuke. No real answers to the point or points made.
Ok, you cannot prove their is a God.
However, you can prove the earth is a globe.
Huge difference and not really comparable and appropriate for this thread.
Happy 🤷‍♂️☺️
 
Ok, you cannot prove their is a God.
However, you can prove the earth is a globe.
Huge difference and not really comparable and appropriate for this thread.
Happy 🤷‍♂️☺️

Can't remember who said it, but the quote was something like;

If the whole of human history and learning was erased and we found ourselves where we were 5000 years ago, we'd eventually relearn the science that we know. Religion might exist and start up again but it wouldn't be the same. But science would.
 
Can't remember who said it, but the quote was something like;

If the whole of human history and learning was erased and we found ourselves where we were 5000 years ago, we'd eventually relearn the science that we know. Religion might exist and start up again but it wouldn't be the same. But science would.
I saw that being quoted by Ricky Gervais but don't know if it's his own or he was quoting someone else. It's true though.
 
Can't remember who said it, but the quote was something like;

If the whole of human history and learning was erased and we found ourselves where we were 5000 years ago, we'd eventually relearn the science that we know. Religion might exist and start up again but it wouldn't be the same. But science would.
Great quote matey👌
 
I answered with: Why are they pushing for people to follow their religion?
The thing is there are many religions, different cultures disagree on which religion is true.
Whereas all normal people of all religions think the earth is a globe, I'll rephrase that KNOW the earth is a globe.
Autocorrect nearly meant I said the earth is a glove, I'm not sure if that's more or less ridiculous than your theory 🤔🤔
 
The thing is there are many religions, different cultures disagree on which religion is true.
Whereas all normal people of all religions think the earth is a globe, I'll rephrase that KNOW the earth is a globe.
Autocorrect nearly meant I said the earth is a glove, I'm not sure if that's more or less ridiculous than your theory 🤔🤔

I'm gutted I've been lied to all my life about the shape of the planet and all maths I learnt at school. I'm now going to to have to really think about if 2 for 1s are really worth it at the supermarket.
 
Thousands of years of research and science is rendered useless cos of a bath of water😳😂
Because you could not fill a bath on a globe. Why? Fuck knows, but you can’t.

I try to keep an open mind and think why can people think this, how would things we observe on a globe work on a flat earth (for example stars rotating around polaris works on both if you only consider the northern hemisphere ), but that one I have no idea.

Imagine if the earth was flat and you had a bath of water and a space capable helicopter. You could lift it up carefully and transport it to other giant space biscuits. In open space it could hang below the helicopter and retain the water if you ignore the fact there is no gravity to hold it down. But one day you encounter a globe planet and the second you touch the bath down, out jumps the water because of reasons.
 
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