It is.
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Put a flat earthier into space
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It is.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
To you, it is. To me, it is not. And to you we both live on what you think it is. To me we both live on what I believe is an alternative to what you believe it is, whatever that actually is in its entire reality.
The reality is it's a spinning globe. You just refuse to accept anything to show you that.To you, it is. To me, it is not. And to you we both live on what you think it is. To me we both live on what I believe is an alternative to what you believe it is, whatever that actually is in its entire reality.
taipeisafc
Striker
I am quitting again i give up with this utter tosspot
Nukehasslefan
Winger
That's your offered reality based on the stories you adhered to.
I refuse to believe anything that requires questioning but that doesn't mean I choose not to accept some things.
But where are they located?
Nukehasslefan
Winger
In the centre of Earth.
Is that the same thing is as not believing things you don't understand?
Nukehasslefan
Winger
I think it can cover everything.
Of all this stuff you're absolutely certain is wrong, then you should be able to work back over through it and prove it wrong.
People much cleverer than me and you on this thread have shown you numerous things which you just dismiss. If it's wrong you'd easily be able to prove that. Show where the maths or science is wrong with actually correct maths and science.
Yet you haven't done so once. Understandable when you've been brainwashed by the cult of flat earth that when there's anything that looks like it might shake your belief the shutters come down. Hope you manage to escape the cult.
DaveH
Striker
That is a pretty weak argument. By your own argument the slope/curve on your fantasy world is too small to measure. By your own rough rule about the amount of curve over a short space is measured in microns, and too slight to see with the naked eye. But you put these together, think you can hold up a spirit level and think the earth is flat.
Likewise you rub your chin and say EM waves need a medium to travel through with no basis. I posted the other day about the massive overwhelming evidence against your supposition from nowt including experiments that have been repeated in different circumstances all coming to the same conclusion, along with the entire space program.
You have nothing to back up either of these major claims and for you to be right millions of people are covering up the truth you have found, seemingly without actually doing anything much to find it, just guessing.
It is why I never understand conspiracy theorists. They are all wrong, I am right and I have no evidence or reason for my claims. For them to pretend about all this, it must be a global government cooperation to put a massive conspiracy together to trick me. A strange way to live.
To conspiracy theorists, that is what being a free or alternate thinker is about. Being different, being special, but not working through a proof because that might show they are wrong, and no longer different or no longer special.
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As in 'underground'?
Nukehasslefan
Winger
What am I certain is wrong?
Cleverer in what sense?
If it's right surely those who say it should be able to prove it.
I merely question it and refuse to believe it until I get proof.
My own take is my own take which I do not champion as factual.
That depends on what the math portrays as to a reality.
It's no good offering maths for something which cannot be identified as being a proof.
However brainwashed you think I am is of absolutely no consequence to me. You do not matter to me in the context of me going along in my life and I'm fairly sure I am of no consequence to your life.
No cult to escape.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Yep and it is on your fantasy world. Because until proven, both are just that to each person.
Well, to be fair I'd say there's a lot around me that does not show me anything like a globe and especially not a spinning one.
Now this is just simple observations and taking note of my own senses without having them compromised by peer pressure.
Then the simple experiments rubber stamp it all and show the nonsense of a spinning globe up, in my opinion.
Your opinion is of a spinning globe being an absolute truth. That's your right and fair enough from me.
And you offer then travelling in a nothingness of your space vacuum without anything to back that up.
You see this comes back down to understanding the simplest of things. The very simplest observations that can tell us a lot about life but is cast aside and overlooked when necessary to keep the space vacuum alive and kicking in people's minds.
There's no massive overwhelming evidence in favour of a spinning globe and space, unless we follow the films and the gobbledygook explanation that are passed off as evidence, yet none can be passed off as a truth by those arguing it.
Back to religion.
If 10 people believe in a god against 100 million believing in another. Who is correct?
Who turns out to be a cult and what possible reasoning could the 10 use to make the 100 million believe they're right? Peer pressure? Showing a manifested god up for the 100 million to see?
What do the 100 million use to convince the 10?
Peer pressure?
Showing their manifested god so it's beyond doubt?
Or do they argue that 100 million is majority so majority wins?
The thing is, who is lying?
Does anyone have to lie or does everyone just have to have faith in their religious belief's based on passed along thought processes.
What has this to do with science you may ask. Nothing. Science is about reality.
What about scientific hypotheses? Anyone can follow that and have faith in whatever those hypotheses are, enough to class them as truth ls if enough people go along with it.
You won't understand the minority because you are in the majority and are happy to argue along for that. I wouldn't expect you to think any different.
A minority will always become part of the majority if the minority allow the majority to basically bully them out of their stance.
What's the strongest stance a person can take against the majority?
To stand fast.
This infuriates some of that majority who believe they're stood on the high pedestal and orchestrating the singing of the majority hymn sheet.
They feel like they are personally wounded by the all go no quit conspiracy theorist, especially when all the names and put downs seem to make the stance much stronger.
Don't you think people lie?
Do you think governments officials lie?
Do you think sales people lie?
Or do you think some tell the odd like but they wouldn't tell big lies or lots of them.
What's your stance?
The general public who believe a lot of stuff may be the most genuine people who rarely ever lie and may only do so for the good. A belief in this stuff for most is by simple ongoing schooling of their lives from toddler to old age via schools and news channels...etc....etc....etc.
Nobody has to believe they're following potential deliberate misinfo but many people if asked if they trust governments would likely not give a nailed on affirmative answer.
Are you saying it's just better to believe everything unconditionally because it's just easier?
So called conspiracy theorists can be pacified by having the proof handed to them.
Nobody is handing out proof's but plenty are handing out arguments that they believe constitute a proof and when it's not accepted this is what happens.
Yes.
We're all brainwashed. This is all about how much by each person.
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DaveH
Striker
You say I have nothing to back it up, but there are 200 pages of evidence you waved away and like not needing a medium to travel through, 150 years of experimentation across many countries and institutes along with the entire space program.
Yes some people lie. I'm actually a chicken called Rufus. That may be a lie, may not. But a few people on the board know me in real life and it takes just one of them to slip up. Now scale that lie up to millions of people working in many different fields and it becomes highly unlikely that they are all wrong and you are right. Your claims might be worth some merit if you could say why your claims are right and all the other claims are not. But you don't offer anything for or any details against.
Yes some people lie. I'm actually a chicken called Rufus. That may be a lie, may not. But a few people on the board know me in real life and it takes just one of them to slip up. Now scale that lie up to millions of people working in many different fields and it becomes highly unlikely that they are all wrong and you are right. Your claims might be worth some merit if you could say why your claims are right and all the other claims are not. But you don't offer anything for or any details against.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
Agreed, it's not flat.
So how far undergound?
Nukehasslefan
Winger
What do you know about this space program?
I'll take it as it being unacceptable to me.
Do you think officials tell lies?
Or tell the truth but that truth is only provable to whoever knows it.
Many different fields of what?
My colaims would be worth nothing to those who are unconditional to the narratives set out for them, no matter what I said. I'm under no illusions about that and nor do I care.
But you aren't the entire makeup of people following set narratives. Some do think outside the box and some do get interested in simply thinking alternate to set narratives if they feel there's a potential for them to be wrong or misdirected...etc.
So why do you bother trying to argue with me?
Not too sure.
