Put a flat earthier into space

[The Krankie Returns]

Images like that one are in a way digitally manipulated. Each 'dash' of stars is about 18 degrees long, which means a 72 minute exposure. With UK skies, that would be a really washed out picture if taken as one. But if you take lots of 2-3 minute exposures then load them into a stacking program, then it merges them together and gives those results. If you look closely at the outer trails then you can see a couple of small gaps where there was a small delay in the camera between one frame and the next.

It is a legitimate photographic technique and you are not inventing any data. It is much the same as just turning up the brightness or a mobile phone automatically stitching photos together to make a panorama. But the nutters look at stuff like that and say "processed means it is invalid, processed means drawn freehand in MS paint". I pity them.

If anyone has a DSLR and a tripod and fancies doing some star trails, it is quite a fun project to do. Let me know and I'll stick something in the photography section.

Even people like Hitler, who was considered to be not very nice and didn't really play by international rules, still toed the party line on this one.

My quote was very much tongue in cheek Dave. I’m not a flat earth conspiracy theorist at all. I was just coming out with something that our resident wum on this thread might say.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

You seem to be constantly avoiding my question and waffling a bit.

Do are flames hot because we think they should be and that is the 'standard model' that they made to meet expectations, or are they hot because they are?

They're hot because of friction/vibration.
Rub your hands together slower then faster, under less pressure then more.
You can feel the heat difference.

If you were to do that at higher friction and pressure you would create a flame or glow.
Have you ever seen friction welding?


You've seen people light fires by using a stick and wood or rock as friction to create a more widespread friction.

You can't help anyone. Using per mile squared is a parabolic function and only someone massively misinformed would assume that's relative to a globe earth.
It can be used as a very vague approximation but only for very small distances.

They reckon about 400 miles. And this approximation was not made up by a supposed flat Earth theorist.
Since we are dealing with 100 miles or less, it becomes massively relevant and also is another spanner in the global model.

 

[Northern Boarders]

Yawn

 

[Nukehasslefan]

If you watch Mars it moves across the sky in one direction, the stops and starts going in the other direction. This is because we are both orbiting the sun.

So it just stop and about turns and goes the opposite way?
Can you explain why it does this?
Did you observe this yourself?

@Nukehasslefan

I believe its a globe but having watched a load of interviews with

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recently I keep an open mind. I think your confidence outweighs your ability to understand what you are saying. You come across as absolutely sure yet you can't prove your theory or produce any credible evidence. Big claims require big evidence and you don't have any to even suggest the current model is incorrect.

If you truly believed what you are saying then you would go to the edge and document it as evidence. Until you find the edge your theory has no place in modern science and is rightly being shot down in flames by people who understand the current model.

My theory about what? A flat Earth or a globe?

 

[OohBaldyBally]

@Nukehasslefan I have no doubt that you’ve been asked this a million times but humour please, I’m not mocking, I’m genuinely interested. What do you actually believe? Do you believe that the Earth is flat?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

it isn't me who doesn't understand it is you you utter clownshoe.

I did say I'd leave to someone to help you out.

 

[taipeisafc]

They're hot because of friction/vibration.
Rub your hands together slower then faster, under less pressure then more.
You can feel the heat difference.

If you were to do that at higher friction and pressure you would create a flame or glow.
Have you ever seen friction welding?


You've seen people light fires by using a stick and wood or rock as friction to create a more widespread friction.

They reckon about 400 miles. And this approximation was not made up by a supposed flat Earth theorist.
Since we are dealing with 100 miles or less, it becomes massively relevant and also is another spanner in the global model.

And it gets worse - heat from fire is caused by friction now.......not chemical reaction as the hydrocarbons breakdown into H2O and CO2 - I better tell the lands on our plant they have been running the furnace wrong for years don't need fuel just friction. Friction generates heat and this heat can cause combustion if there are combustible species and enough Oxygen nearby, no matter how hard you rub two ice cubes together they won't burst into flames moron.

I did say I'd leave to someone to help you out.

And nobody can as you are the one who is utterly wrong......

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I don't get your working out.
Maybe I'm just bad a the maths required.
Can you write it as a sum so that I can see how from 8 inches in one mile you've got to 600ft in 30 miles?

Ok, when you look over a circle, the Earth you believe as a globe you would see a drop of 8 inches for the first mile. A curve down and away from you of 8 inches (approx)From the same vantage point to 2 miles you square the inches per mile, meaning 8 inches x2 miles then squared it is 8 inches x 2 miles x 2 miles. 8 x 2 x 2 =32 inches.
From the same vantage point you started with you now look out to 3 miles. 8 inches per mile x 3 then squared means you are looking at 8 inches x 3 x 3...... 8 inches x 3 =24 x 3 = 72 inches or 6 feet drop from your starting point.

You are always squaring the distance All you are doing is squaring, so when you get to 30 miles it's 8 inches x 30 miles then squared, meaning 8 inches x 30 miles = 240 inches, then squared which means it's X by itself, meaning 8 x 30 = 240 inches x 30 = 7200 inches divided by 12 inches = 600 feet drop from your starting point.

And so on.

 

[taipeisafc]

Ok, when you look over a circle, the Earth you believe as a globe you would see a drop of 8 inches for the first mile. A curve down and away from you of 8 inches (approx)From the same vantage point to 2 miles you square the inches per mile, meaning 8 inches x2 miles then squared it is 8 inches x 2 miles x 2 miles. 8 x 2 x 2 =32 inches.
From the same vantage point you started with you now look out to 3 miles. 8 inches per mile x 3 then squared means you are looking at 8 inches x 3 x 3...... 8 inches x 3 =24 x 3 = 72 inches or 6 feet drop from your starting point.

You are always squaring the distance All you are doing is squaring, so when you get to 30 miles it's 8 inches x 30 miles then squared, meaning 8 inches x 30 miles = 240 inches, then squared which means it's X by itself, meaning 8 x 30 = 240 inches x 30 = 7200 inches divided by 12 inches = 600 feet drop from your starting point.

And so on.

Why? You are so wrong it is breathtaking how someone can write something so utterly wrong and unintelligble at the same time is beyond me. Utter, utter drivel and if that is your idea of explaining something you need help.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

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A long exposure photograph captures the rotation of the earth as the stars blur into circles over Knowlton church ruins in Dorset

Or it catches rotation of reflected light.

 

[Hep]

So it just stop and about turns and goes the opposite way?
Can you explain why it does this?
Did you observe this yourself?

My theory about what? A flat Earth or a globe?

Yes, I've observed it myself.

The explanation that makes perfect sense is that we're both orbiting the sun.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I would love to know how the flat-tards explain a tall ship coming towards you - first you see the flag at the top of the mast then gradually the ship reveals itself from the top down. How does that work if we’re on a flat earth?

Light differences.
More light above than below.
The reason?
Because horizontal atmospheric mass over distance omits light back to your eyes, from objects.

You can test this yourself with your binoculars or telescope which will magnify the light over distance and bring the ship/boat back into view.
The same way as you can go to a higher elevation which means you see farther due to you now looking slightly angled through less to more mass of atmosphere.


None of it requires a globe.

 

[Roman maroni]

Light differences.
More light above than below.
The reason?
Because horizontal atmospheric mass over distance omits light back to your eyes, from objects.

You can test this yourself with your binoculars or telescope which will magnify the light over distance and bring the ship/boat back into view.
The same way as you can go to a higher elevation which means you see farther due to you now looking slightly angled through less to more mass of atmosphere.


None of it requires a globe.

You can't bring it back into view when it goes over the curve.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

@Nukehasslefan I have no doubt that you’ve been asked this a million times but humour please, I’m not mocking, I’m genuinely interested. What do you actually believe? Do you believe that the Earth is flat?

Nope, not in the way it's consistently described by most people.

1. I do not believe we live on a flat disc.

2. I do not believe we live on any shape that has turtles and elephants holding it up.


I believe we potentially live inside a cell.
I think we live in a decaying cell.
This cell holds the stuff we need as bacteria, among other bacteria, which is all I believe we are.

Yes, I've observed it myself.

The explanation that makes perfect sense is that we're both orbiting the sun.

Can you explain why this mars can go one way and about turn to go another way in the vacuum of space that people believe?

You can't bring it back into view when it goes over the curve.

It doesn't go over a curve.

 

[Hep]

Can you explain why this mars can go one way and about turn to go another way in the vacuum of space that people believe?

Yes, quite easily.

The impression that it goes one way, stops and turns, is because we're observing it from a different orbit of the sun.

In reality, it doesn't stop and go the other direction, it continues to orbit the sun, as do all the other planets.

The maths to support this is detailed and accurate and can be checked with a home telescope.

 

[Roman maroni]

Nope, not in the way it's consistently described by most people.

1. I do not believe we live on a flat disc.

2. I do not believe we live on any shape that has turtles and elephants holding it up.


I believe we potentially live inside a cell.
I think we live in a decaying cell.
This cell holds the stuff we need as bacteria, among other bacteria, which is all I believe we are.

Can you explain why this mars can go one way and about turn to go another way in the vacuum of space that people believe?

It doesn't go over a curve.

It certainly does you imbecile.

 

[Hend79]

Nope, not in the way it's consistently described by most people.

1. I do not believe we live on a flat disc.

2. I do not believe we live on any shape that has turtles and elephants holding it up.


I believe we potentially live inside a cell.
I think we live in a decaying cell.
This cell holds the stuff we need as bacteria, among other bacteria, which is all I believe we are.

Can you explain why this mars can go one way and about turn to go another way in the vacuum of space that people believe?

It doesn't go over a curve.

Give it up man you absolute clueless clown. You have done nothing but speak absolute drivel. You are totally laughable

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Yes, quite easily.

The impression that it goes one way, stops and turns, is because we're observing it from a different orbit of the sun.

In reality, it doesn't stop and go the other direction, it continues to orbit the sun, as do all the other planets.

The maths to support this is detailed and accurate and can be checked with a home telescope.

A different orbit of the sun?
Can you elaborate on this?

 

[Hend79]

A different orbit of the sun?
Can you elaborate on this?

He doesnt have to, its all been explained by intelligent and highly respected scientists. Your theory however has been dreamed up by no one but yourself. You have also been shown up to be totally and utterly wrong.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

He doesnt have to, its all been explained by intelligent and highly respected scientists. Your theory however has been dreamed up by no one but yourself. You have also been shown up to be totally and utterly wrong.

I took everything for granted but in the last few years I've been more interested in this sort of stuff and it is amazing what I didn't "know"

I wouldn't waste time on @Nukehasslefan because as you say there is plenty of evidence out there.