Mnemonic
Midfield
but it's the same outcome, players and fans mixing together. If it's unsafe, it's unsafe on both sides of the line.
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Pitch invasion - EFL
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If opposition players jumped in with home fans, it soon would be.
Son Of Phillips
Full Back
Advertisement boards being closer to the pitch gave people a decent run up
I remember the pitch invasion at Swindon. Fantastic stuff. All of us on the pitch. It was last away game and fancy dress was a bigger thing back then...all sorts of giant soft toy costumed people leaping about. They had to get Reidy out on a microphone in the Swindon stand to address the Lads fans so we would go home.
Get Into Em
Striker
And where does that logic end?
The public should be allowed behind the bar in a pub because bartenders are often on the other side too?
The audience should be allowed to walk on the stage in a theater because actors often walk down off the stage and interact with the audience?
People should be allowed to enter the cockpit on a plane because the pilot is allowed to leave the cockpit?
Rules are rules - they're in place to keep people, both fans in the stands and professionals on the pitch, safe. Your logic of "it's alright because Cirkin jumped in the crowd" makes zero sense. You wouldn't apply it in any other scenario. The people entering the pitch will rightfully be punished. Cirkin won't. Play silly games etc.
RedandWhiteRebel
Midfield
Fair punishments would include:
A warning for anyone who entered the pitch to genuinely celebrate with our players.
But a match ban for anyone getting in the face of opposition players and staff. There was only a handful who did that from what I could see.
The vast majority appeared to be youths so I would go easy on them. We've all done daft things in our younger days.
A warning for anyone who entered the pitch to genuinely celebrate with our players.
But a match ban for anyone getting in the face of opposition players and staff. There was only a handful who did that from what I could see.
The vast majority appeared to be youths so I would go easy on them. We've all done daft things in our younger days.
BarnesPark
Midfield
Not according to the law.
Entering the field of play without permission is illegal. Entering the stands is not.
As this is the law, opinions are not really relevant.
How about you can drink in the stand watching any other sport, but not football? Can we agree that is a bigoted, classist law that shouldn't stand?
Not everything illegal is right, fair and proportionate.
buster
Striker
Made any representations to your MP about your thoughts on the law as it stands ?
As it happens, I have and in conversation to many people over the years in higher positions.
Regardless, I was just pointing out an example that we could probably agree on, of an illegality being unjust.
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BarnesPark
Midfield
I get where you’re coming from but, in reality, if we had a vote in here whether to allow drinking in the stands, I suspect the vast majority wouldn’t.
Why- because a small minority of people would abuse it, chuck pints around, and ruin the match for the majority of supporters.
When this happened, a minority of people would come in here defending it as kids having fun etc. etc.
Attendances would decrease as a result
If this behaviour leaving a higher proportion of idiots in the crowd to make the situation progressively worse.
Football, if we like it or not, is on a path to a more US experience with refreshments ordered in phones and delivered to seats in stands and no segregation all of which I would welcome- it’ll come, just maybe not in my lifetime.
Mnemonic
Midfield
How is it not safe?
Other scenarios are not the same. A football pitch doesn’t fly at 30.000 ft
EternallySAFC
Winger
Well we would just end up covered in beer after a goal.
100% correct. I wish we had the quality of food the yanks serve at their stadiums unlike the rubbish we get at the big grounds over here. It’s a treat to go and watch a lower league game and a locally made pie and peas or whatever.
It delayed them coming around the pitch to celebrate with the sensible fans. Possible sanctions/ fines etc. If you can't behave sensibly, don't go.
I don't blame him. It's not safe for players etc
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Trauntrian
Winger
Even worse is the fact you can drink beer in the stand watching Women's football but not Men's
Get Into Em
Striker
I gave you three examples: one you can compare to in every day life, one that is an event with an audience, and one extreme example. It's interesting that you only focused on the extreme example despite knowing all three would be wrong and unsafe - just as it is with running on a field of play. Wonder why.
If you actually want to know why it's deemed unsafe, and not just taking the piss:
Opposition players - we had Coventry players defending themselves as fans ran up to goad them. Not only that, but how the fuck do those players know their fans intentions - as far as I can tell, all that happened was shoves and a phone being thrown, what if one of those fans wanted to seriously hurt someone? What if one of the opp players perceived that they were going to do that and defended themselves with more force as multiple fans sprint at them?
Policing/Stewarding - They now have to focus on not only the fans in the stands that are already producing absolute carnage which is hard to manage, but also put their efforts into engaging the fans on the pitch and focusing on them. What if there's a medical emergency in the stands and you've now got more stewards focusing on the pitch than said stands? Stewarding is allocated by how many fans are in the stands, not by how many are all over incl. on the pitch.
A rush/crush - Hundreds of fans rushing towards a barrier that you have to climb over isn't safe. You know why - I'm not sure why you're pretending you can't grasp it.
Opposition fans reaction - Emotions running high, a reaction wouldn't he too surprising. Luckily at the SoL they're up in the Gods. They could have quite easily have gotten pissed off and turned to their counterpart home fans though, or even the fans below them. Coventry have a history of throwing objects down. If an object is thrown down and hits someone in the North Stand with no stewards to help because theyre dealing with those on the pitch - then what?
Those are just off the top of my head anorl. I'm sure if you asked the question 'How is it not safe?' to any H&S officer in the country they'd have an absolute field day.
Let's set the scene. Sunderland get recorder at the end of the game on Tuesday. It's lifted into the box, and Ballard stooped for it. Everyone around you had a beer in their hand!
What happens next?
mackem1989
Striker
It’s misconduct according to fifa like so it’s a law of the game
Everyone’s piss wet through dancing celebrating whilst covered in cheap carling Cider
The op is crying as he’s now wet and someone’s ran on the pitch.
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Smiler
Striker
It's not really though is it, how many women's games have you been to in years gone by where the fans would rip out seats and throw them at each other, where fans would not just throw coins but would file them down on the edges to make them sharp then throw them, where fans would literally run onto pitches and have full blown fights with each other and the police, kicking those opposition fans and police in heads when on the ground? I've seen it at football games and it's easy to see why if you did why police and the law don't like the idea and banned it years ago
