Pensions



What do you do Swindon, if you don't mind me asking.

Global Sourcing Manager.
Basically buying parts and materials. I do less travelling now which suits me.
Started in the Automotive industry and funnily enough we used to supply Nissan their lighting for their cars.
It’s all about saving money, targets, legal contracts etc.


Brilliant. Would you believe me if I told you years ago my nephew did that job!!
Rockin Robin.

The last N in Swindon in the seats behind last row at the top in white is where I sit.
 
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Not being an arse but how is not paying into a pension tax efficient? Is it not the opposite?

I pay the company max into a DB scheme and have done for 14 years but the statements about how much it'll be worth at 67 are demoralising!
on my current dc scheme, once my employer has made its basic contributions it then matches mine on top of that. there's a point where it's no more tax efficient to put my own money in than not. if I choose to keep my piece the employer puts what it would have matched straight into my monthly pay. I get to keep my own money and get what would have been the employers contribution now. bingo.
 
I’ve not got a fantastic pension provision. Or thats what I thought till I read the OP

I have 1 final salary pension from an employer I worked at for 12 years in the 80s and 90s. A private pension pot from combining and transferring the benefits from two other occupational schemes. A defined benefits occupational scheme that I paid into for 10 years and a final salary scheme that I just became eligible for and started which will take me to retirement.

Plus the state pension.

I have a financial advisor who I occasionally call regarding pensions, mortgages and savings/ bonds etc

The OP will be reliant upon the taxpayer and the government presumably but I don’t give a too much of a shit about that coz by the time he needs the money I won’t be a tax payer.
 
I’ve not got a fantastic pension provision. Or thats what I thought till I read the OP

I have 1 final salary pension from an employer I worked at for 12 years in the 80s and 90s. A private pension pot from combining and transferring the benefits from two other occupational schemes. A defined benefits occupational scheme that I paid into for 10 years and a final salary scheme that I just became eligible for and started which will take me to retirement.

Plus the state pension.

I have a financial advisor who I occasionally call regarding pensions, mortgages and savings/ bonds etc

The OP will be reliant upon the taxpayer and the government presumably but I don’t give a too much of a shit about that coz by the time he needs the money I won’t be a tax payer.
Unless you’re dead you’ll be paying taxes in some way, shape or form.
 
How would you go about finding out about the pension value of a job you had about 15 year ago?

Find pension contact details - GOV.UK

Type the name of the employer into there and it will give you details of the scheme administrators.

I’ve not got a fantastic pension provision. Or thats what I thought till I read the OP

I have 1 final salary pension from an employer I worked at for 12 years in the 80s and 90s. A private pension pot from combining and transferring the benefits from two other occupational schemes. A defined benefits occupational scheme that I paid into for 10 years and a final salary scheme that I just became eligible for and started which will take me to retirement.

Plus the state pension.

I have a financial advisor who I occasionally call regarding pensions, mortgages and savings/ bonds etc

The OP will be reliant upon the taxpayer and the government presumably but I don’t give a too much of a shit about that coz by the time he needs the money I won’t be a tax payer.

It’s worth requesting a CETV (cash equivalent transfer value) for your old final salary scheme at this moment in time. Then you can decide once you see the value whether you think it’s prudent to seek advice.
 
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I’ve not got a fantastic pension provision. Or thats what I thought till I read the OP

I have 1 final salary pension from an employer I worked at for 12 years in the 80s and 90s. A private pension pot from combining and transferring the benefits from two other occupational schemes. A defined benefits occupational scheme that I paid into for 10 years and a final salary scheme that I just became eligible for and started which will take me to retirement.

Plus the state pension.

I have a financial advisor who I occasionally call regarding pensions, mortgages and savings/ bonds etc

The OP will be reliant upon the taxpayer and the government presumably but I don’t give a too much of a shit about that coz by the time he needs the money I won’t be a tax payer.


Depend what pensions you realise monthly, remember state pension is taxed so lose part of personal allowance straight away, then allowances also taxed against private pensions. So anything over new tax allowance you will pay tax @ 20% unless part of your income takes you into 40% bracket. Unless you are in tax efficient schemes via adviser. So may be a reduced tax payer but could still be a tax payer.....get away with nothing with this lot.
 
Unless you’re dead you’ll be paying taxes in some way, shape or form.

That's partly what I meant. The OP will need help from the taxpayer in about 25 to 30 years. In 25 - 30 years I'll be between 88 and 93 years old. He's not gonna get many years of contribution from me.

Find pension contact details - GOV.UK

Type the name of the employer into there and it will give you details of the scheme administrators.



It’s worth requesting a CETV (cash equivalent transfer value) for your old final salary scheme at this moment in time. Then you can decide once you see the value whether you think it’s prudent to seek advice.

I was about to ask for just that as well as a full statement as the company were acquired and the pension transferred to a new management company a year or two ago. Need an update. Thanks.

Depend what pensions you realise monthly, remember state pension is taxed so lose part of personal allowance straight away, then allowances also taxed against private pensions. So anything over new tax allowance you will pay tax @ 20% unless part of your income takes you into 40% bracket. Unless you are in tax efficient schemes via adviser. So may be a reduced tax payer but could still be a tax payer.....get away with nothing with this lot.

See my first response. I'll be a reduced tax payer then dead by the time the OP is living off the state. It'll be quite a different state by then. Probably in one hell of a state. :)
 
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Think the state pension will go the distance at some point or get reduced for those with company pensions or savings above a certain level

This is not right.
The pensioners today are actually being paid for by workers of today via their NI.

.. Today's pensioners paid for others pensions in the past in a similar way.

If the NI couldn't cover it then overall gross pensions would simply be cut.

Be very wary of Tories promising to cut NI.. .

If any party was to suggest that their manifesto would means-test the state pension in future .... they would be shot with shit.

It would be a massively counter productive step

The impact would be 2- fold

1. They woukd lose an election

2. Anyone paying into a company or private pension would stop- as what would be the point ??

No the state pension for all us here to stay - but it will be limited to the levels it's at now.
 
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This is not right.
The pensioners today are actually being paid for by workers of today via their NI.

.. Today's pensioners paid for others pensions in the past in a similar way.

If the NI couldn't cover it then overall gross pensions would simply be cut.

Be very wary of Tories promising to cut NI.. .

If any party was to suggest that their manifesto would means-test the state pension in future .... they would be shot with shit.

It would be a massively counter productive step

The impact would be 2- fold

1. They woukd lose an election

2. Anyone paying into a company or private pension would stop- as what would be the point ??

No the state pension for all us here to stay - but it will be limited to the levels it's at now.

NI isnt ringfenced for pensions & NHS.
It all just goes into the same pot. Governments in the past have pulled a fast one when they reduced the income tax but then increased the NI rate. Because people believe this link with pensions & NHS they tend not resent paying it as much so governments get away with it.

The state pension will get later & later when people can get it, to the point theres not much point in it. It'll probably be around 70 by the time I get it.
 
The care system is in the verge of collapse, I wouldn’t count it being around in the form that we are used too for very much longer....
NI isnt ringfenced for pensions & NHS.
It all just goes into the same pot. Governments in the past have pulled a fast one when they reduced the income tax but then increased the NI rate. Because people believe this link with pensions & NHS they tend not resent paying it as much so governments get away with it.

The state pension will get later & later when people can get it, to the point theres not much point in it. It'll probably be around 70 by the time I get it.
Yep Agree

This us why you need to have your own pension otherwise you will work till 70 which is too long for many and definitely for anyone doing a physical job. We may be living longer but everyone will still feel knackered by 70.

There is no way the state pension will be cut for the better off though ...

Labour wouldn't dare do it - and the Tories would never ever do it as they like to show themselves as the party that rewards graft.

I think you're right - they will balance the equation by stealthy sneaky changes to age limit thresholds- and by pushing random parts of health care into a place whete you need to fork out yourself. ( remember free dental care?)

I'm 55 and I've just stopped working - but might go back.
House paid for and £250k pension pot pretty much untouched.

I feel lucky to have what I have - and I recognise that it won't be as easy for you youngsters coming through the system .
However the universal employer pension contribution now being set in stone - company pensions should be higher in future.
 
I'm 55 and I've just stopped working - but might go back.
House paid for and £250k pension pot pretty much untouched.
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I know shed loads have nowt (including my missus) but at 55 , a pension pot of 250k , be surprised how quickly that will go
 

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