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nic said:
Photo angles can be entirely misleading. These lads are measured week in and week out from V02 max to body fat levels. He is not out of shape (watch a pre match warm up) but he is low on confidence & has a touch of the introverts about him. Don't drop him, coach him. We have 2 keeper coaches on the staff! We have a Sunderland GK legend in the hospitality areas! Big him up, the 1:1 save at Wembley in the P Off final... etc He is the best we have got this season, if he has plateaued then we can cash in at some point and replace, but not this season, we need him, we need to back him.
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But both photos are from pretty identical angles, and he looks overweight in one, but not the other. If photo angles are misleading, then how's that the case?
 

Thornton said:
But both photos are from pretty identical angles, and he looks overweight in one, but not the other. If photo angles are misleading, then how's that the case?
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It's obvious he's bulkier now. He has been for ages. I don't think it's negatively impacting his game at all though. He's pretty agile and I can't remember him being slow sweeping up, but maybe he is?
 
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AndrewP said:
Jason Steele is second choice at a top half Premier League team man. 😂

It's more likely that some of our fans will cheer ironically if he comes to claim an easy
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AndrewP said:
Jason Steele is second choice at a top half Premier League team man. 😂

It's more likely that some of our fans will cheer ironically if he comes to claim an easy cross.
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Don't think so mate, our away support are better than that.
 
Posture, cut of the GK top, breeze direction... no doubt he looks heavier now than then but as an athlete ages that is acceptable. If he is over weight and that is affecting his performance in training and on the pitch then I would expect the club to act. I follow our keepers closely, have done for years, was a GK myself & coached by no less than Monty in the 80s at a centre of excellence for a 1st Div Club (so what I know), the errors at Leeds & on Sat were very similar, he needs help and support, half a stone (maybe) makes no odds in comparison to mentality.
 
AndrewP said:
I don't think any of his errors so far has been because he is carrying excess weight. If he is carrying excess weight then I think it's made no difference and whatever weaknesses he has to his game have always been there.
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Yeah his errors have nothing to do with being a fat knacker it’s just unprofessional and gives everyone else something to moan about.
 
nic said:
Posture, cut of the GK top, breeze direction... no doubt he looks heavier now than then but as an athlete ages that is acceptable. If he is over weight and that is affecting his performance in training and on the pitch then I would expect the club to act. I follow our keepers closely, have done for years, was a GK myself & coached by no less than Monty in the 80s at a centre of excellence for a 1st Div Club (so what I know), the errors at Leeds & on Sat were very similar, he needs help and support, half a stone (maybe) makes no odds in comparison to mentality.
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Breeze direction that’s a belter that like. Next time my mate calls me fat I’ll say and I quote it’s the breeze direction. He’s well over weight fella nowt to do with breeze 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
fugitivemackem said:
Breeze direction that’s a belter that like. Next time my mate calls me fat I’ll say and I quote it’s the breeze direction. He’s well over weight fella nowt to do with breeze 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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You are welcome. But the lad is getting hung out to dry on a couple of photos. Do you know his stats?
 
nic said:
Photo angles can be entirely misleading. These lads are measured week in and week out from V02 max to body fat levels. He is not out of shape (watch a pre match warm up) but he is low on confidence & has a touch of the introverts about him. Don't drop him, coach him. We have 2 keeper coaches on the staff! We have a Sunderland GK legend in the hospitality areas! Big him up, the 1:1 save at Wembley in the P Off final... etc He is the best we have got this season, if he has plateaued then we can cash in at some point and replace, but not this season, we need him, we need to back him.
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He has a massive gut, at his age and supposedly being an athlete it’s inexcusable.
 
nic said:
Posture, cut of the GK top, breeze direction... no doubt he looks heavier now than then but as an athlete ages that is acceptable. If he is over weight and that is affecting his performance in training and on the pitch then I would expect the club to act. I follow our keepers closely, have done for years, was a GK myself & coached by no less than Monty in the 80s at a centre of excellence for a 1st Div Club (so what I know), the errors at Leeds & on Sat were very similar, he needs help and support, half a stone (maybe) makes no odds in comparison to mentality.
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Breeze direction 😂 He’s fat
 
Hbk69 said:
How can you not?! I’ll say again, name me one other player in the top two leagues who has a spare tyre, he’s literally the only one and it’s an embarrassment to our coaching staff.
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Don't have the data to answer that or the body imaging. These lads are measured to within millimetres week in and week out, I know that, I have a background in it. Developing a 'spare tyre' doesn't happen.
 
nic said:
Don't have the data to answer that or the body imaging. These lads are measured to within millimetres week in and week out, I know that, I have a background in it. Developing a 'spare tyre' doesn't happen.
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Your way off he’s overweight it’s clear to see.
 
fugitivemackem said:
Your way off he’s overweight it’s clear to see.
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Will agree to disagree. As I said in an earlier post. He does not lack agility (speed of movement or movement of a body part) but his decision making & distribution is at times questionable. But if bashing him for an unsubstantiated weight gain make people feel better then crack on, his biggest area for improvement is confidence and and communication... not sure knee jerk weight abuse helps the lad.
 
Ch1982 said:
Young isn’t even getting his game for Salford now. Was hoping he’d be more involved next season but looking unlikely. Think we need to be looking at an upgrade in the summer.
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The battering against City destroyed his confidence and has hardly played since after being motm for several previous games
 
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