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Patterson any thoughts.

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Raich Carter said:
Can anyone explain why we don’t let him Patto kick it from goal kicks, we get mepham to pass it to Patto to kick?
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A lot of teams do it now, it's so the ball can go out either side off a goal kick, if the keeper takes it, the opposition press probably means the ball can only go out the side the goal kick was taken on.
 

sick said:
He's 5th in the league for percentage of shots saved (75%) according to some website I was looking at earlier. His kicking is shit though and always has been. How has it not improved at all ? Is the training just going in one ear and out the other? I hate it when we pass it to him.
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Was his passing like? I reckon easy in the top half. People love saying it’s crap though
@10 Trenches Deep you do loads of tactical stuff so might have the answer to this. Where does Patterson come in the league amongst keepers for collection of crosses and distribution? Nowhere near as bad as he is made out in this thread in my opinion like.
SuperSunderland said:
We have a better keeper on the bench
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We don’t
 
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fugitivemackem said:
For me he’s over weight and just not good enough. He’s the weak link in my opinion. I’ll take the pelters but he’s clearly not commanding his area and his punts up field don’t make it up field. Every where else we look ok.
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Good shot stopper
Shit with the ball at his feet
Never let him kick the ball foward
 
halfpast3 said:
Was his passing like? I reckon easy in the top half. People love saying it’s crap though
@10 Trenches Deep you do loads of tactical stuff so might have the answer to this. Where does Patterson come in the league amongst keepers for collection of crosses and distribution? Nowhere near as bad as he is made out in this thread in my opinion like.

We don’t
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The posters who come up with good stats that stand out for me are @woodlebert and @The Situation. Maybe they could have some data on this?
Might be interesting to see a comparison as Patterson seems to be one of those players that creates diverse opinions on here. For what it’s worth, I think he’s decent but will need to make all round improvements to his game if he’s to be a first choice premier league keeper.
 
joop said:
The posters who come up with good stats that stand out for me are @woodlebert and @The Situation. Maybe they could have some data on this?
Might be interesting to see a comparison as Patterson seems to be one of those players that creates diverse opinions on here. For what it’s worth, I think he’s decent but will need to make all round improvements to his game if he’s to be a first choice premier league keeper.
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Cheers
 
KGC83 said:
Yes, he’s a goalkeeper, he’s a better shot stopper which is the main attribute of a keeper.

You think Simon Moore is a better keeper based on watching him for 2/3 games. You haven’t got a clue.
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Me? OK. You're only comparison for being better is he is a better shot stopper!
How about comparing handling, distribution, jumping, commanding his box, organisation, physicality, quickness, reactions etc etc blah blah.
But yeah, you know loads.
As I said I won't ask you for a player report in the future.
 
The command, or massive lack thereof, of his box is just plain embarrassing. A scared passenger half the time watching the ball and hoping to make a few decent stops (his main strength) for the plaudits when he could attempt to stop half the chances by dealing with the ball before the shot. We could do far better imo and if he wasn’t a local lad I think he’d get more criticism.

Dont get me started on his distribution! Virtually every game he’ll kick a ball straight out of play. Embarrassing
 
Wow.... Patterson is a decent keeper.

The whole team are slow and ponderous, so I'm not surprised his distribution might look a bit iffy, when he hasn't usually got much to work with.
 
Geppetto said:
Honestly? I think we could do with better. I don't think he was necessarily at fault today but his distribution isn't the best and he's not commanding in the box. When team's do pump the ball into our box he's often pinned to his line, he rarely comes for the ball, perhaps it's due to a lack of confidence and he's fearful of dropping it.
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Earlier in the season he was coming to get them. He needs to get back to that as both goals yesterday could do with a keeper claiming it. Though not sure he'd have definitely saved either if he had he'd have more of a chance
 
SAFCftm1986 said:
The command, or massive lack thereof, of his box is just plain embarrassing. A scared passenger half the time watching the ball and hoping to make a few decent stops (his main strength) for the plaudits when he could attempt to stop half the chances by dealing with the ball before the shot. We could do far better imo and if he wasn’t a local lad I think he’d get more criticism.

Dont get me started on his distribution! Virtually every game he’ll kick a ball straight out of play. Embarrassing
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But that just isn’t true is it
parsonjohn1985 said:
Earlier in the season he was coming to get them. He needs to get back to that as both goals yesterday could do with a keeper claiming it. Though not sure he'd have definitely saved either if he had he'd have more of a chance
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Where on earth could a keeper have claimed the first one? The second one I highly doubt any keeper would have went for it
 
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He's rooted to his line far too often.Looks terrified.Sell for £3-£4 million if anyone's daft enough.
 
halfpast3 said:
But that just isn’t true is it

Where on earth could a keeper have claimed the first one? The second one I highly doubt any keeper would have went for it
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Tbh mate I'm probably wrong. I haven't seen them back and I was at the match. My comment is purely one view and emotion
 
Statistically, Patto is in the top half dozen 'keepers in the Championship - he has flaws (as do all but the toppest of top 'keepers), but, he's also very young in terms of a 'keeper (fourth youngest in the Championship) and inexperienced (he hasn't even played 150 games yet). If we're honest, he isn't going to be as good as Jordan Pickford, but that's quite a high bar.

It's not like he's making mistakes like Meslier did.

I like Patto and think he is doing a grand job.
 
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Grimes said:
For how protected keepers are I’m baffled to why he’s always cemented to his line, puts all the responsibility on the defence and they suffer for it.
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Totally agree. It's a hard one to quantify but let's say he has cost us 5 goals a season by staying rooted to his line, would he potentially give away more than that by coming for anything that could be deemed a 50:50?

I definitely think he should be more positive in coming for it as we have seen numerous times that even if he doesn't get it, he will more than likely get a free kick.
 
Stokes Underpants said:
Me? OK. You're only comparison for being better is he is a better shot stopper!
How about comparing handling, distribution, jumping, commanding his box, organisation, physicality, quickness, reactions etc etc blah blah.
But yeah, you know loads.
As I said I won't ask you for a player report in the future.
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So you’ve seen Moore play all of 3 games in his full career yet you can give us the lowdown on his handling, distribution, jumping and all that other shit you’ve said?
 
bomber said:
He's rooted to his line far too often.Looks terrified.Sell for £3-£4 million if anyone's daft enough.
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KGC83 said:
So you’ve seen Moore play all of 3 games in his full career yet you can give us the lowdown on his handling, distribution, jumping and all that other shit you’ve said?
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Moore's distribution was much worse, that much was clear in the games he played. He didn't look anywhere near as capable of passing it around at the back.
 
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Eggman said:
I think it’s 100% true.

At least one kick per game goes directly into touch and he definitely remains rooted to his goal line instead of claiming the ball and removing any threat
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It’s just nonsense. As for putting the ball out of play once a game I would say pretty much every keeper in the world would if they hit more than a few longer balls
 
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