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Organised Protest

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Nelson! said:
Yeah. It’s amazing how quickly they’ve managed to mess the whole things up isn’t it?

I allowed myself to believe things might be getting better but I should have known.
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Perhaps a lie down mate?

Or perhaps no need to swing to the complete polar opposite. There is a middle ground available :lol:

They've royally screwed up this last few weeks, that doesn't mean absolutely everything is rotten top to bottom.
 

Grumpy Old Man said:
How about possibly Roy Keane? Sorry, can't be him - he's been canonised. f***ing up an appointment does not mean Donald is running anything. He only gives a shit about how big his cheque is down the line. Methven will try to influence things, because that's him.
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So then there should be no issue with protesting against Methven then.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
How about possibly Roy Keane? Sorry, can't be him - he's been canonised. f***ing up an appointment does not mean Donald is running anything. He only gives a shit about how big his cheque is down the line. Methven will try to influence things, because that's him.
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What a surprise, one person on the GOM approved list of villains and he’s not part of the club set up. Grimly predictable.
 
I agree with the thought of an organised protest, as long as our last route of mediation is done first. That route involves RAWA going into the next meeting and getting the club to disclose everything that they possibly can involving the process of appointing a new manager, why it didn't happen with Keano, what the share percentages are, if there are any non-voting shareholders involved in the club and anything less than full disclosure will result in the fans taking action that we feel is appropriate.

It could anything involving mass boycott of season tickets until they disclose, walk outs being planned for particular games or protests outside the stadium (please no one bring coffins or bed sheets otherwise you'll make us a bigger laughing stock than we already currently are).

The club shouldn't be allowed to think that these last 11 days are able to be brushed under the carpet as just a bump in the road. Our season seems like it will be well and truly defined by the shit show we have had to witness over these last 11 days and if we the fans feel like we want to do something to voice our disapproval of that, then they'll have to accept it.
 
johnnyat87 said:
Perhaps a lie down mate?

Or perhaps no need to swing to the complete polar opposite. There is a middle ground available :lol:

They've royally screwed up this last few weeks, that doesn't mean absolutely everything is rotten top to bottom.
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It was all a facade: back to square one with the worst owners in our history and an absolute bluffer calling the shots in terms of the playing side.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
How about possibly Roy Keane? Sorry, can't be him - he's been canonised. f***ing up an appointment does not mean Donald is running anything. He only gives a shit about how big his cheque is down the line. Methven will try to influence things, because that's him.
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Speakman to blame at all?

And Methven might want to try, but the fact Kyril hasn't told him to do one, like I've said earlier, that's a worry.
 
Nelson! said:
We are being run the same way we were under those two, incredibly badly and with zero ambition. I don’t know what other conclusion to come to when one of them is prominent at our games.
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It’s far from being the same. Frustrating that it’s not working yet. Some mistakes made some good things. Name the pre KLD good things.
 
Nelson! said:
It was all a facade: back to square one with the worst owners in our history and an absolute bluffer calling the shots in terms of the playing side.
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And you know it was all a facade? It couldn't possibly be that Kyril does indeed have full control and Methven is just doing his best job of weaseling back in.... which is a problem, I agree.
 
The Falcon said:
So if you believe he wanted Keane why did he let Speakman put obstacles in his way to fuck him off ?
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I'll believe he created a problem by liking Instagram posts he should have left well alone until things were signed. He's 25; it's what 25 year olds do. Hopefully he'll learn. At the end of the day, it looks like we made the best offer we were able to, and he turned it down. The only way to handle things at this club is to have meetings as far as away from Sunderland as possible and say nothing until everything is signed.
 
sir rowell cummins said:
It’s far from being the same. Frustrating that it’s not working yet. Some mistakes made some good things. Name the pre KLD good things.
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Struggling to name the post KLD good things. On the pitch we are failing miserably and off it we are less professionally ran than Fleetwood or Forest Green. Can’t even staff a club shop or ticket office ffs.
 
johnnyat87 said:
To be fair (and I'm not into the conspiracy/puppet master stuff).... but Methven turning up at the game was stupid when we're in turmoil and when the share issue hasn't been cleared up.

KLD might have control.... but the others seem to have input and influence. That's still concerning and him being there shows a complete lack of awareness, which isn't surprising for Charlie but I'm surprised Kyril thought it was a good idea or good timing.
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I'm hoping that Treuer and Levin have now had a few candid words with him.
 
johnnyat87 said:
And you know it was all a facade? It couldn't possibly be that Kyril does indeed have full control and Methven is just doing his best job of weaseling back in.... which is a problem, I agree.
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If KLD had full control, he wouldn’t be able to weasel back in.
 
Nelson! said:
If KLD had full control, he wouldn’t be able to weasel back in.
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Well that's just clearly bollocks. Any shareholder could speak to another shareholder and try to build up a rapport. It's not rocket science. Kyril should've ignored him, but it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

And Methven apparently wanted Keane, as did Kyril, that might've been the starting point.
 
johnnyat87 said:
To be fair (and I'm not into the conspiracy/puppet master stuff).... but Methven turning up at the game was stupid when we're in turmoil and when the share issue hasn't been cleared up.

KLD might have control.... but the others seem to have input and influence. That's still concerning and him being there shows a complete lack of awareness, which isn't surprising for Charlie but I'm surprised Kyril thought it was a good idea or good timing.
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I get what you’re saying but why shouldn’t someone who owns a percentage of a football club not be allowed to turn up to the odd game? It’s not like he’s there every week and just because he watches the odd game it doesn’t mean he’s got control of the club.

We all think the 3 amigos are wankers but I’m not sure we as fans can tell them wether or not they can come and watch their investment from time to time.
 
Nelson! said:
Struggling to name the post KLD good things. On the pitch we are failing miserably and off it we are less professionally ran than Fleetwood or Forest Green. Can’t even staff a club shop or ticket office ffs.
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You don't rate Stewart or Pritchard or Broadhead or Defoe ? You didn't want to hold on to Dan Neil this window ? You wanted non league nobodies in charge of the academy ?
 
Betty Swollocks said:
I get what you’re saying but why shouldn’t someone who owns a percentage of a football club not be allowed to turn up to the odd game? It’s not like he’s there every week and just because he watches the odd game it doesn’t mean he’s got control of the club.

We all think the 3 amigos are wankers but I’m not sure we as fans can tell them wether or not they can come and watch their investment from time to time.
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I think I'd prefer them to watch. Pissed me right off when Ellis Short stayed away from the club and disassociated himself with it.

I'd prefer it even more for them not to be involved within our club at all like, and therefor not watching our games.
 
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