Thatheaderman
Striker
Brighton are a decent side but lack firepower.
Mags are a poor side that lack firepower.
Mags are a poor side that lack firepower.
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NUFC thread 2021.
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Come on Fulham on Friday night, sucking Mags into bottom 3 and heaping the pressure on. Relief for players that fans aren't there as the atmosphere would be toxic on Saturday night - full day of drinking before hand! Has nil-nil all over it.
Bears Beets
Striker
One boring bastard goes missing and the other returns 
Ale taster
Striker
Just to cheer the resident mags up this morning; I am told by someone who should know that it's now 33 consecutive visits that Leeds have failed to beat any team within the M25 and Bamford is a serious doubt for Friday.
Have a nice day!
Have a nice day!
You could stop enjoying this quite so much haha
The Fish
Winger
Again, you're talking about winning the league, where I've been consistently talking about midtable.
You're playing the same 16 of 20 teams. 80% are the same teams. And, for a midtable club, you can use points gained as a marker for progression/regression as those points are reflective of your teams' results across the season.
I understand all of that. I also understand that League position isn't the best measure of a midtable-team's progress, as it is affected by results in games that the team cannot affect. Which is the common sense position I took about a week ago that a few of you would rather argue against because a Mag said it, than accept it on it's own merit.
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“getting more points” might be because the other teams are shitter. That’s not something your team can affect.
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Binxy
Striker
For a mid table club you can also use league placings as a marker for progression/regression as those placings are reflective of your teams results across the season.
Easy this aint it.
Ask any Chairman, Manager, Players or fans if they'd rather finish higher in the league with fewer points or lower in the league with more points.
Unless your in the cult of Rafa I think we both know what the answer will be.
The Fish
Winger
Apart from games won, goals scored, goals scored from open play, goals conceded, shots per game, shots on target per game, shots allowed per game, tackles made per game, interceptions made per game... All of those were worse in Bruce's first season.As placings gain prize money but points don't they're as important as xGs in this argument! Yet again a mag comes on here and try to twist an argument to fit their hatred of Ashley and Bruce. Just accept there is very little difference in Bruce's first year to benetiz seasons. You'll likely rattle on about net spend next, something else the vast majority of supporters don't care about. Sky have an awful not to be sorry for over the years
But they did get a certificate which had their star midfielder buzzing iirc
Football Dinosaur
Striker
You were almost identical position without the strikers used the previous season. It was a good year. Unlike this one but don't let me get in the way of the agenda your pushing.
The Fish
Winger
Fixed it for you.
Secret Visage
Striker
I'm off for catnip.
The Fish
Winger
I've only mentioned Benitez when others have brought it up. My point, from the off, was that League position is affected by other teams' performances in other games and, as such, isn't the best marker for your teams' progress/decline.
Team A gets 39pts every season for 4 years, they can finish 17th, 15th, and so on. According to some on here, finishing 15th on 39pts shows progress.
This whole conversation has been the usual suspects seeing the name of the person who posted it, and reacting to that, rather than the argument and it must be f***ing boring to everyone else.
Binxy
Striker
It's f***ing ridiculous this comparing of seasons.
The only way you can compare seasons is if you play the exact same teams in the exact same order with the exact same lineups, then compare results otherwise your comparing apples and pears.
FFS @The Fish is using shots at goal, shots on target, possession, saves made, etc,etc......to try and big up Rafa.
The only way you can compare seasons is if you play the exact same teams in the exact same order with the exact same lineups, then compare results otherwise your comparing apples and pears.
FFS @The Fish is using shots at goal, shots on target, possession, saves made, etc,etc......to try and big up Rafa.
Pervert
Secret Visage
Striker
Still banned from the Co Op?
Binxy
Striker
Your final points total is affected by other teams as well.
You might play a team high/low on confidence (depending when you play them)
You might play a team with loads of injuries.
You might play a team which a resting players.
Aw they’ve gone back to summer continental shifts on here
It has to come down to what performances are like, and the direction that the season has gone in.
For example in Bruce's first season here we finished 13th, but we were in the top 10 for the first half of the season, before falling away a bit and being lower mid table until May, Darren Bent got 24 goals.
In the PDC/Poyet season we finished 14th, got to a cup final, another cup QF but were in the bottom 3 for pretty much the entire season, barring a few weeks in midseason and the last 3-4 games.
I will say the Poyet season had much higher high points but it's no comparison really. But on paper you see 13th vs 14th not much difference.
Donnybrook
Midfield
Gannin dooooooon
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