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Whitburnmakem said:
That’s the problem people assume there aren’t any chargers because they are not in your face like petrol stations, there is loads , it’s not different if your driving a petrol car somwhere your not familiar with you have to find a petrol station if your low on fuel . They need to educate people on charging more
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It isn't like petrol stations at all though is it? Keeping hearing this people just need educated or they are some kind of extremist for opposing EVs, top and bottom is people just don't want them which they are perfectly entitled not to do.
 

Whitburnmakem said:
That’s the problem people assume there aren’t any chargers because they are not in your face like petrol stations, there is loads , it’s not different if your driving a petrol car somwhere your not familiar with you have to find a petrol station if your low on fuel . They need to educate people on charging more
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People want to charge at home surely?

What % of the NE parks on the street? 70%? 80%?

We are a million miles from mass uptake.
 
It's all one big circle of shite at the moment. On here and in media . There has to be a statement of intent from Nissan . As at the moment there silence speaks volumes . The 2 executives leaking to press 12 - 14 months left to save company is terrible like .
But always happens in life always leaks from the top . Especially when things going wrong . Every person for themselves
As any prospective investors will surely be wary now . And it could be a case of other firms cherrypicking the best parts that survive. Think Sunderland is by far one of the best parts of the nissan business. So could be in future a different name . Same plant same workers producing new brand
 
ravydavygravy said:
People want to charge at home surely?

What % of the NE parks on the street? 70%? 80%?

We are a million miles from mass uptake.
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Not to mention whether the power grid will ever be able to cope with everyone who's currently putting petrol in their cars all day charging an EV. Especially on days when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
 
Ruleigan said:
Not to mention whether the power grid will ever be able to cope with everyone who's currently putting petrol in their cars all day charging an EV. Especially on days when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining.
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The national grid don't seem to think it's a problem.

"Even if we all switched to EVs overnight, we estimate demand would only increase by around 10%. So we’d still be using less power as a nation than we did in 2002 and this is well within the range the grid can capably handle"

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Whitburnmakem said:
That’s the problem people assume there aren’t any chargers because they are not in your face like petrol stations, there is loads , it’s not different if your driving a petrol car somwhere your not familiar with you have to find a petrol station if your low on fuel . They need to educate people on charging more
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If there’s mass take up of evs, there’s no where near enough. Relatively few have them now, but once mass adoption takes off those easy to find charging spots become rarer and rarer, as more and more cars stop to be charged

there needs to be a system where they are on residential streets and all the rest. Charging will be a bind for many without home chargers, that’s before you get to the inevitable disparity in pricing, which govts will have to get a handle on so people aren’t fleeced
 
It’s not the fault of the lads on the line in Sunderland but this goes far beyond sadly just the EV Mandate or tariffs.

Reality is Nissan just aren’t making great cars anymore. The Quasqui was a great car. The Ariya is good. But the rest get average reviews at best. Be it from journos or owners. The Juke and Leaf in particular.


At the same time traditional competitors like Toyota are winning manufacturer of the year and new competitors like Kia and Hyundai have been knocking great cars out for a few years.

That’s before you even get into the the cost advantages of the Chinese competitors like BYD.

Car market is saturated. Demand is decreasing and they probably have the 5th or 6th best range in their target market. They will have problems with or without the governments EV rules and cheaper Chinese alternatives.

Again not the fault of the guys on the line.
 
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ryhopemarra said:
Hopefully things improve soon lads and EV mandate is extended soon. However I say this with a different perspective though, as a long term driver of EV's, it's more incorrect opinions/ poor EV knowledge that needs sorting rather than poor infrastructure. I started with a leaf on NEVOS, when this was pulled from the scheme I had a QQ, couldn't wait to give it back and get in another EV. Bought my own for cheaper repayments than an equivalent ICE car, I had no at home charging facilities for a long time and used public whilst out, takes less time to plug in and go off about my business than queuing, filling and paying... I've been to London, the Cotswolds a few times and average 6 trips to the lakes per year. I've never had issues finding a charger local to my destination, on the 2 occasions a charger hasn't worked over the years, there has been one available next to it. When we have headed south, we have used motorway chargers (expensive but less than diesel) and a top up charge takes around 40 minutes. It's hardly waiting though, by the time the jameater had stretched her legs and been to the toilet. My only gripe is the insurance is more than an ICE equivalent, but I'm still better off with savings on fuel and maintenance. The biggest issue is the anti EV brigade being set in their ways that need converting.
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If you're going to make valid points about EV's try not to lie.

I barely ever queue at a filling station, certainly less than one time out of 10. Unless there's some kind of panic, less than once a year there's never long queues.

I fill up at Sainsbury's, always use pay at the pump (loads of people don't?) and it takes 2 minutes. It's far more convenient than charging an EV in public.

The government need to bail out EV's because people like me just don't want to drive one. If they set unrealistic targets they need to basically bribe the public to buy them.
 
Yuri said:
Chances of Honda taking control of the factory?
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Honda had a plant in swindon it closed few years back no way will they want another money loss in uk
Yuri said:
Chances of Honda taking control of the factory?
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Carling555 said:
Honda had a plant in swindon it closed few years back no way will they want another money loss in uk

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Honda did swindon did not work out
 
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bomber said:
Most can charge at home.Are you saying most people cannot.
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I'd think the majority can't yeah, will depend on area I'm guessing but would mean cables trailing over footpaths etc in many cases? Requires a private driveway surley? I'd think most people don't have one. Happy to be proven wrong like if you have any statistics on the matter.
bomber said:
Most can charge at home.Are you saying most people cannot.
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Seems I'm wrong anyway after a quick read 57% of UK house holds apparently have a driveway which i was surprised at. Still a pretty high percentage doesnt have one, then many will be single drive ways with some houses having multiple cars.
 
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bomber said:
You'll find most can,then a proportion who cannot will be able to at work.It'll only rise as new homes rarely come without a parking space
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Do you live in the North East? I live in Shields and I would say at least 70% of people park on the road.
VINCENT VEGA said:
Seems I'm wrong anyway after a quick read 57% of UK house holds apparently have a driveway which i was surprised at. Still a pretty high percentage doesnt have one, then many will be single drive ways with some houses having multiple cars.
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Not round here they don't.
 
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