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Next England Captain

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TopCat said:
He's one of those players like Cook - identified early on by the selectors as "one for the future" and fast tracked into the team and identified as a potential future captain. He is (and will be) given more lives than the likes of Compton, Carberry, Bairstow etc and allowed to learn the skills needed as an International Cricketer whilst playing test matches.
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What criteria do you think are used to determine whether a player is "one for the future"?

1. Do what you're told
2. Eat what you're told
3. Go to bed when you're told
4. Bat how you're told
5 . Bowl how you're told
6. Don't play your cricket too far from London

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Could you imagine this lot giving a player like MS Dhoni or Shivnarine Chanderpaul a fair crack of the whip?
 

Twisted said:
. 3-0 flattered us beyond belief.
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Not sure I agree with that. Won the first 2 deservedly (albeit the first one was a bit closer than we would have liked). Probably deserved to lose the 3rd (and would have done so had the rain not intervened), Completely deserved the victory at Durham after Bell, Bresnan and Broad's heroics. 5th test would have been a draw had Clarke not tried to force a victory which should have ended in a win for us had the Umpires not got involved.

4-1 would have been a fair reflection of the series
 
Would never have a keeper as captain. I know it's been done in the past, but IMO it's too psychologically demanding.
 
johnson said:
The only one they would appoint if cook left would be Bell, done the job well for his county, all the rest...absolutely no chance



Bowled awfully at Headingly like second innings, that cost us the game



:lol: FFS man



Bit unfair like, Compton doesn't score that much more slowly than Root like, all the yorkshire media, Vaughan and Boycott were saying drop Compton, Root is your man, absolutely no need. What a surprise, Root fails at the top of the order, technical flaws exposed, and they all say, he has been messed around, leave him at 5. I like Root, but he has been given a ridiculously easy ride like.

There is no way Compton should of been dropped based on his test from, he had much less failings than Root, then they pick Robson, who is also known for scoring very slowly!

Why did Carberry go on the Ashes tour too? Nowhere near good enough that lad.

Compton has gone but he was well and truly messed around like, bizarre behaviour.
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at no stage did Boycott say drop compton for root, he kept banging on about root not being ready to open and needing a year at 6

The more you look at this England team the more obvious it seems that if cook steps down etc.. that the next captain has to be someone drafted in. Too tough for Broad/Anderson to bowl and captain, Prior shouldn't even be in the team and Bell in no way seems a leader.
 
scotch said:
at no stage did Boycott say drop compton for root, he kept banging on about root not being ready to open and needing a year at 6

The more you look at this England team the more obvious it seems that if cook steps down etc.. that the next captain has to be someone drafted in. Too tough for Broad/Anderson to bowl and captain, Prior shouldn't even be in the team and Bell in no way seems a leader.
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Nope totally wrong, I found an old phone the other day and it had old podcasts from the NZ series on. Boycott said Compton doesn't have the technique to open and that Root should be England's opener for the Ashes. He says it loads of times, I was listening to it just last week out of interest

I agree with the last part by the way kind of, maybe Morgan. All I would say is captaincy position is sometimes exaggerated, if Cook is scoring hundreds and the bowlers are bowling well, he doesn't have as much to do. Just in a struggling team he gets exposed a bit. Not every captain is like Michael Clarke, more than one way to lead.
 
Cannot believe that Paul Collingwood has not been mentioned as the next England captain.
Best captain by a country mile in the County Championship. Look at his record since he took over at Durham.
I remember when they gave the captaincy to Mike Brearley after Botham resigned and look what he did. Colly is still playing in Division 1 of the Championship so he is capable of batting in the No6 / 7 spot for England. His record as England Captain in the one day format wasn't too bad either (World Cup winner in 20/20) not bad really !!!
 
Former Player said:
Cannot believe that Paul Collingwood has not been mentioned as the next England captain.
Best captain by a country mile in the County Championship. Look at his record since he took over at Durham.
I remember when they gave the captaincy to Mike Brearley after Botham resigned and lookca what he did. Colly is still playing in Division 1 of the Championship so he is capable of batting in the No6 / 7 spot for England. His record as England Captain in the one day format wasn't too bad either (World Cup winner in 20/20) not bad really !!!
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Can see where you are coming from mate, but think zero chance of that happening tbh
 
Former Player said:
Cannot believe that Paul Collingwood has not been mentioned as the next England captain.
Best captain by a country mile in the County Championship. Look at his record since he took over at Durham.
I remember when they gave the captaincy to Mike Brearley after Botham resigned and look what he did. Colly is still playing in Division 1 of the Championship so he is capable of batting in the No6 / 7 spot for England. His record as England Captain in the one day format wasn't too bad either (World Cup winner in 20/20) not bad really !!!
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I've proposed it a dozen times man.

And met with less ridicule now than six months ago.

Alternatively, Gale who is still young enough to hold the job for 5 or 6 years.

Neithers batting is test standard. On the other hand, neither is Cook's, and nor is his captaincy.

I fully expect the India series to be thrown away in the vain hope he comes good.

Ronan O'Connell of the ROAR calls it spot on:
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TopCat said:
Not sure I agree with that. Won the first 2 deservedly (albeit the first one was a bit closer than we would have liked). Probably deserved to lose the 3rd (and would have done so had the rain not intervened), Completely deserved the victory at Durham after Bell, Bresnan and Broad's heroics. 5th test would have been a draw had Clarke not tried to force a victory which should have ended in a win for us had the Umpires not got involved.

4-1 would have been a fair reflection of the series
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each of those 'we should have won' tests you mention were a couple of overs away from being totally the other way. whilst games are often one way or the other it was never acase of dominating a test other than [iirc] the second test we dominated and the third they dominated.. the rest were all one session away from being totally diffrenent.
 
Twisted said:
each of those 'we should have won' tests you mention were a couple of overs away from being totally the other way. whilst games are often one way or the other it was never acase of dominating a test other than [iirc] the second test we dominated and the third they dominated.. the rest were all one session away from being totally diffrenent.
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Yeah agree with that don't 4-1 was a fair reflection of that series
 
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