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What A Waster said:
This season has been disappointing so far. Expected to lose the games against the top sides that we've played, no harm in that, any sort of points are a bonus, don't even mind the ultra defensive approach, won 3 and drew 1 against the top 6 at home with that approach last year. But the way we got turned over off Forest was disheartening but not a surprise. Second half against Arsenal, once they'd scored heads dropped. The level of commitment/belief/spirit whatever you want to call it doesn't seem to be there. Cardiff away? Newly promoted side in their first home game, probably would've took a draw although we could've won it had Kenedy not missed the pen. Palace away, again a draw is not a bad result for a midtable team away to another midtable team. And then today, a win was very important, and not only did we not win, we played dreadfully.
The fact we had 4 of the top 6 in our first 6 games probably put more focus on Cardiff and Palace, and then still winless going into Leicester at home makes it a high pressure game and the players just shrank. Man United away next, nailed on defeat. You can take accept defeats when you look like you're still in games, or unlucky, or there's at least a level of performance, but second half home to arsenal, and the full game today have been woeful.
Need to inprove sharpish, because as I said, Man United is a nailed on defeat, which leaves us 30 games to get 36/37 points, so for me as it is we look like relegation candidates. Once you have that losing mentality it becomes a habit.
Having said all that, we could put a run together of a few wins between man united and boxing day when we play Liverpool, and look like we aren't as bad as we do at the minute. Have a similarly tough period from xmas into January/february then a relatively easy run in so may be ok.

Re. Kenyon. I'd be happy for anybody else but Ashley now tbh. With Ashley it could be worse. But it could also be a whole lot better. Bit of ambition, trying to be as good as you possibly can, not just wanting to make up the numbers in the league and balance the books.
Even if it is worse than Ashley, after 11 years of going nowhere, just spin the wheel and see how it goes. I think Kenyon was instrumental at man united when they went global, and was at chelsea during a similar period. Being succesful obviously helps grow the club, but its not the only factor. I think he may just see the potential in the club where we could at least grow to be the best of the rest. Whatever happens though, something different to Ashley would be worth a go. Could be a Venkys or Vincent Tan type, could be a Mansour or Abramovich. Spin the wheel, take a chance
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You’ll beat Man Utd. We see this type of scenario every season.
 

safcforever said:
You’ll beat Man Utd. We see this type of scenario every season.
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Absolutely not. Man United are still decent no matter what people say, quality players, mourinho as manager, losing to Derby then West Ham, crisis going on etc, they'll murder us next weekend. They're a good team with a point to prove, we are just crap
 
What A Waster said:
Absolutely not. Man United are still decent no matter what people say, quality players, mourinho as manager, losing to Derby then West Ham, crisis going on etc, they'll murder us next weekend. They're a good team with a point to prove, we are just crap
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Tbf I’d feel the same in your position. Trust me though, you’ll put the final nail in the coffin. This Pogba v Jose crap will need to be fixed straight after you beat them 2-0
 
What A Waster said:
This season has been disappointing so far. Expected to lose the games against the top sides that we've played, no harm in that, any sort of points are a bonus, don't even mind the ultra defensive approach, won 3 and drew 1 against the top 6 at home with that approach last year. But the way we got turned over off Forest was disheartening but not a surprise. Second half against Arsenal, once they'd scored heads dropped. The level of commitment/belief/spirit whatever you want to call it doesn't seem to be there. Cardiff away? Newly promoted side in their first home game, probably would've took a draw although we could've won it had Kenedy not missed the pen. Palace away, again a draw is not a bad result for a midtable team away to another midtable team. And then today, a win was very important, and not only did we not win, we played dreadfully.
The fact we had 4 of the top 6 in our first 6 games probably put more focus on Cardiff and Palace, and then still winless going into Leicester at home makes it a high pressure game and the players just shrank. Man United away next, nailed on defeat. You can take accept defeats when you look like you're still in games, or unlucky, or there's at least a level of performance, but second half home to arsenal, and the full game today have been woeful.
Need to inprove sharpish, because as I said, Man United is a nailed on defeat, which leaves us 30 games to get 36/37 points, so for me as it is we look like relegation candidates. Once you have that losing mentality it becomes a habit.
Having said all that, we could put a run together of a few wins between man united and boxing day when we play Liverpool, and look like we aren't as bad as we do at the minute. Have a similarly tough period from xmas into January/february then a relatively easy run in so may be ok.

Re. Kenyon. I'd be happy for anybody else but Ashley now tbh. With Ashley it could be worse. But it could also be a whole lot better. Bit of ambition, trying to be as good as you possibly can, not just wanting to make up the numbers in the league and balance the books.
Even if it is worse than Ashley, after 11 years of going nowhere, just spin the wheel and see how it goes. I think Kenyon was instrumental at man united when they went global, and was at chelsea during a similar period. Being succesful obviously helps grow the club, but its not the only factor. I think he may just see the potential in the club where we could at least grow to be the best of the rest. Whatever happens though, something different to Ashley would be worth a go. Could be a Venkys or Vincent Tan type, could be a Mansour or Abramovich. Spin the wheel, take a chance
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Shouldn't gloat what with being 2 leagues below but :lol::lol::lol:, class, long may it continue.

Oh and a mandatory fuck off.
 
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I love their slogan...


"Our truth is stronger than their lies"

FFS what 'truth' are they on about? It's a nice quote but completely irrelevant.

What is their truth? And what are "their lies"?

And why do they think they know the truth but the people who run the club (and have access to accounts and facts) don't?

Don't get me wrong. I can see why Newcastle fans are pissed off, but stuff like that quote is just cringeworthy. Along with most of their ideas for protest!
 
Arguing over who is the bigger club, is pointless. What rules are you using?

But Leicester have proved they are not a pisspot club.
safc4everbp said:
Why?
They arnt a big club
Forest twice European cup winners arnt considered a big club
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Depends on what you judge "bigger club" on

In recent times, Leicester have had a longer run in the top flight.
They've got a newer stadium
More premier league titles
More England internationals at the last World Cup
More recent European experience in the last decade...
Spent more on transfers in the last year...

Ok so they don't have an airport, or Rafa Benitez... But I'd stay that makes them more than a piss pot club
 
Redandwhitedust said:
Arguing over who is the bigger club, is pointless. What rules are you using?

But Leicester have proved they are not a pisspot clerb.



Depends on what you judge "bigger clerb" on

In recent times, Leicester have had a longer run in the top flight.
They've got a newer stadium
More premier league titles
More England internationals at the last World Cup
More recent European experience in the last decade...
Spent more on transfers in the last year...

Ok so they don't have an airport, or Rafa Benitez... But I'd stay that makes them more than a piss pot clerb
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