The Snowman
Central Defender
why am i fuckin arguing with mags that are too embarrassed to admit it
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Gorillacop
Central Defender
Calm down fella , it’s only football.
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Reiver
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He wants some cloud fairy godmother to come along and kiss it all better.
It's just incredible that they clock on here every morning with explanations of why Ashley's being dishonest and somehow conning the supporters.
He went on TV, said he's no longer interested, won't spend money and wants shot of the club ffs
All they can say in response is that he doesn't want to sell, despite spending money on negotiations with 3 prospective buyers, because it's free advertising.
Their logic is absolutely mental.
They've now had to respond to people calling them deluded by saying, 'We don't demand a club that wins things, we just want a club that tries' .... ah bless.
What the fuck does that even mean, they want a club that tries but doesn't win things?
Of course they want a club that wins things, every supporter does ...
... but even the Mags have finally realised that endlessly claiming they're a big club, with a great history that should be winning things, makes them look ridiculous.
They don't even know why they're protesting any more do they
The Snowman
Central Defender
when you have the likes of bolton and bury, neutrals give zero fucks for their 'sad' plightIt's just incredible that they clock on here every morning with explanations of why Ashley's being dishonest and somehow conning the supporters.
He went on TV, said he's no longer interested, won't spend money and wants shot of the club ffs
All they can say in response is that he doesn't want to sell, despite spending money on negotiations with 3 prospective buyers, because it's free advertising.
Their logic is absolutely mental.
They've now had to respond to people calling them deluded by saying, 'We don't demand a club that wins things, we just want a club that tries' .... ah bless.
What the fuck does that even mean, they want a club that tries but doesn't win things?
Of course they want a club that wins things, every supporter does ...
... but even the Mags have finally realised that endlessly claiming they're a big club, with a great history that should be winning things, makes them look ridiculous.
They don't even know why they're protesting any more do they
sky commentator summed it up at kick off at the arsenal game ''the battle of the big spenders''
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Dilligaf60
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I don’t think they do to be honest. It’s just that being an average also ran cannon fodder premier league team doesn’t sit well with the post 92ers. They will continue to stamp their little feet and throw tantrums about the nasty man. One day Ashley will sell up and the next owners will inevitably have to deal with the same shit. They don’t realise their antics have made them pretty much unsaleable to anyone with an ounce of common sense so that sale may be a long time coming. Meantime they will continue to cast around blindly for someone to blame for their situation ( anyone but themselves ) and in doing so continue to force back the boundaries of delusion and general fuckwittery. It is viewed by outsiders as pathetic behaviour considering the plight of bury and Bolton, and rightly so.It's just incredible that they clock on here every morning with explanations of why Ashley's being dishonest and somehow conning the supporters.
He went on TV, said he's no longer interested, won't spend money and wants shot of the club ffs
All they can say in response is that he doesn't want to sell, despite spending money on negotiations with 3 prospective buyers, because it's free advertising.
Their logic is absolutely mental.
They've now had to respond to people calling them deluded by saying, 'We don't demand a club that wins things, we just want a club that tries' .... ah bless.
What the fuck does that even mean, they want a club that tries but doesn't win things?
Of course they want a club that wins things, every supporter does ...
... but even the Mags have finally realised that endlessly claiming they're a big club, with a great history that should be winning things, makes them look ridiculous.
They don't even know why they're protesting any more do they
Personally I find it hilarious and incredibly entertaining.
It’s simply in their nature to protest.They don't even know why they're protesting any more do they
They did it with Westwood, they did it with McKeag and they’re still doing it now, it’s all they know. When it comes to revolting, no one can touch them.
The Snowman
Central Defender
only chant they had in the 70s and 80s was ''sack the board'', they even hounded joe harvey out who won them their only ''trophy'' in living memory
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Deleted member 6694
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In other words, selectively look at the years that suit your point? No doubt you will 'claim' to not read this but I'm going to sink your battleship here and blast you out the f***ing water with your 'selective' years and why @Binxy should save his apologies
Firstly we'll just conveniently ignore the 15/16 season when NET spend was around £93m? (I presume you've got your figures from
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)Income
15/16 - £97.12m
Expenditure
15/16 - £4.17m
What the mags seem to forget is that you suffered 2 relegations over Ashley's period so this is a big hit on the overall revenue and therefore money you can spend after cost. In 2015/16 you went down even after that £93m NET spend above so it hit the finances even harder! Your revenue dropped by £40m due to that relegation and this meant an overall loss of £41.2m in 2016-17. However the TV money for clubs who stayed in the Premier League went up by £30m. So you probably missed out on an extra £70m revenue that season as your revenue would have went up! The difference between 2016/17 £86m and 2017/18 revenue £178m was £92m! That's why Ashley spend big in 2015/16 to try to get this increased prize money but missed out on at least £70m even revenue would have stayed the same in 2016/17 if you hadn't been relegated!
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Anyway, from your selective 2016/17 starting point NUFC lost £41.1m in 2016/17 and made in £18.6m in 2017/18 according to them, they've still lost £22.5m over those 2 seasons.
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Assuming they made a generous profit of £30m profit in 2018/19, can you explain how you expect them to spend more money on players when over those 3 years they've made a profit of £7.5m you've selectively chosen? Basic economics means you can't spend money you haven't got unless you want to risk being in the shite!
Is profit meaningless @Sima?
When Ashley came in you were losing money so how can you expect to have a NET spend of any kind in those first few years? It took NUFC until 2012 to make a profit as they'd also suffered relegation after the mess Hall/Shepherd left the club in. Ashley paid £140m to take on the debt but obviously wasn't going to pump another £100m into the club while it's in a mess in those early seasons, especially after being hit with relegation.
Do Mags have a jobs (silly question I know!
), own a house, have a car, have kids, buy shopping, buy clothes, pay bills etc etc? Because the way some mags bleat on about NET spend is like a kid bleating on that he hasn't had more than his £5 pocket money this week! Also this Mag kid has gone out and spent his £5 on an 8 pack multipack of energy drinks, took them to school and sold them on for £1 each making a £3 profit (players being sold for profit). However, he still wants more money as the kid is oblivious to the household finances and just sees the money he's been given and the money he's got left, his -£3 NET spend I can't be arsed to proof read this but why the fuck do I bother explaining to a Mag why Ashley isn't spending daft and staying within the club's means and this NET spend argument is a load of f***ing shite given the larger finacial picture restricting the 'profits' they could spend and the fact they sold players on for healthy profits? I do it as sometimes it's amusing as fuck to show what shite they can come out with!
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BNM
Striker
Only an idiot would buy a football club, as MA has realised.
Gorillacop
Central Defender
The Snowman
Central Defender
after all the death threats and general shit thrown ashleys way, i cant believe theyre too f***ing dense to rea;lise that when he does finally leave he willleave a huge sting in the tail for fans, maybe selling to a venky type buyer...you can guarantee he WILL have the last laugh somehow
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Deleted member 6694
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Must be the only club in the world who find there chairman having a good scouting setup and turning profit over players a negative
Ever thought your net spend is low because of Ashley's decision making?
You are arguing a transfer profit of 500k fffs over 5 seasons when you've been relegated in that time as well absolutely laughable
As explained in detail in my last post as to what that 2nd relegation cost them
He's talking shite as he's f***ing clueless to the whole financial picture like most of the Mags!What you going to spend your £5 pocket money on this week @Sima?
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Dilligaf60
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Good well researched post mate. Very enlightening.In other words, selectively look at the years that suit your point? No doubt you will 'claim' to not read this but I'm going to sink your battleship here and blast you out the f***ing water with your 'selective' years and why @Binxy should save his apologies
Firstly we'll just conveniently ignore the 15/16 season when NET spend was around £93m? (I presume you've got your figures fromYou must be logged on to see external links)
Income
15/16 - £97.12m
Expenditure
15/16 - £4.17m
What the mags seem to forget is that you suffered 2 relegations over Ashley's period so this is a big hit on the overall revenue and therefore money you can spend after cost. In 2015/16 you went down even after that £93m NET spend above so it hit the finances even harder! Your revenue dropped by £40m due to that relegation and this meant an overall loss of £41.2m in 2016-17. However the TV money for clubs who stayed in the Premier League went up by £30m. So you probably missed out on an extra £70m revenue that season as your revenue would have went up! The difference between 2016/17 £86m and 2017/18 revenue £178m was £92m! That's why Ashley spend big in 2015/16 to try to get this increased prize money but missed out on at least £70m even revenue would have stayed the same in 2016/17 if you hadn't been relegated!
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Anyway, from your selective 2016/17 starting point NUFC lost £41.1m in 2016/17 and made in £18.6m in 2017/18 according to them, they've still lost £22.5m over those 2 seasons.
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Assuming they made a generous profit of £30m profit in 2018/19, can you explain how you expect them to spend more money on players when over those 3 years they've made a profit of £7.5m you've selectively chosen? Basic economics means you can't spend money you haven't got unless you want to risk being in the shite!
Is profit meaningless @Sima?
When Ashley came in you were losing money so how can you expect to have a NET spend of any kind in those first few years? It took NUFC until 2012 to make a profit as they'd also suffered relegation after the mess Hall/Shepherd left the club in. Ashley paid £140m to take on the debt but obviously wasn't going to pump another £100m into the club while it's in a mess in those early seasons, especially after being hit with relegation.
Do Mags have a jobs (silly question I know!
I can't be arsed to proof read this but why the fuck do I bother explaining to a Mag why Ashley isn't spending daft and staying within the club's means and this NET spend argument is a load of f***ing shite given the larger finacial picture restricting the 'profits' they could spend and the fact they sold players on for healthy profits? I do it as sometimes it's amusing as fuck to show what shite they can come out with!
It won’t have any impact though as they are detached from reality and wilfully thick.
Very true. Anyone with any financial acumen will look at them and run a f***ing mile.
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Secret Visage
Striker
The Snowman
Central Defender
2 years ago i sold my car for 2k, yesterday i spent 1900 on a second hand car, the wife went off it till i explained net spend was only £100
Secret Visage
Striker
Not quite true, net profit of £100, but remember a car doesn't need petrol, insurance, road tax etc... unlike if Ashley made a £1m net profit, none of those players would need paying.
Stortford
Winger
Anyone with any acumen would run a mile, they’d take one look at the protest groups, shop shouters and boat party and think wtf, absolutely no way I would want to be involved with that club, they want a sale but seriously seriously don’t help themselves
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Deleted member 6694
Guest
I knew the basics of it as it's common sense really but looking at it in detail it just shows how f***ing clueless they are!
Maybe they should edit Jerry Maguire to "Show me the NET spend"
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Jesse J should rewrite her song to something like "It's not about the money, it's all about the NET spend"
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Dilligaf60
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It’s like the emperors new clothes on steroids. Their lack of self awareness is staggering. Their refusal to acknowledge what is staring them in the face beggars belief. It’s like some kind of mass hallucination.
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Deleted member 6694
Guest
I'll simplify this post for you @SimaIn other words, selectively look at the years that suit your point? No doubt you will 'claim' to not read this but I'm going to sink your battleship here and blast you out the f***ing water with your 'selective' years and why @Binxy should save his apologies
Firstly we'll just conveniently ignore the 15/16 season when NET spend was around £93m? (I presume you've got your figures fromYou must be logged on to see external links)
Income
15/16 - £97.12m
Expenditure
15/16 - £4.17m
What the mags seem to forget is that you suffered 2 relegations over Ashley's period so this is a big hit on the overall revenue and therefore money you can spend after cost. In 2015/16 you went down even after that £93m NET spend above so it hit the finances even harder! Your revenue dropped by £40m due to that relegation and this meant an overall loss of £41.2m in 2016-17. However the TV money for clubs who stayed in the Premier League went up by £30m. So you probably missed out on an extra £70m revenue that season as your revenue would have went up! The difference between 2016/17 £86m and 2017/18 revenue £178m was £92m! That's why Ashley spend big in 2015/16 to try to get this increased prize money but missed out on at least £70m even revenue would have stayed the same in 2016/17 if you hadn't been relegated!
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Anyway, from your selective 2016/17 starting point NUFC lost £41.1m in 2016/17 and made in £18.6m in 2017/18 according to them, they've still lost £22.5m over those 2 seasons.
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Assuming they made a generous profit of £30m profit in 2018/19, can you explain how you expect them to spend more money on players when over those 3 years they've made a profit of £7.5m you've selectively chosen? Basic economics means you can't spend money you haven't got unless you want to risk being in the shite!
Is profit meaningless @Sima?
When Ashley came in you were losing money so how can you expect to have a NET spend of any kind in those first few years? It took NUFC until 2012 to make a profit as they'd also suffered relegation after the mess Hall/Shepherd left the club in. Ashley paid £140m to take on the debt but obviously wasn't going to pump another £100m into the club while it's in a mess in those early seasons, especially after being hit with relegation.
Do Mags have a jobs (silly question I know!
I can't be arsed to proof read this but why the fuck do I bother explaining to a Mag why Ashley isn't spending daft and staying within the club's means and this NET spend argument is a load of f***ing shite given the larger finacial picture restricting the 'profits' they could spend and the fact they sold players on for healthy profits? I do it as sometimes it's amusing as fuck to show what shite they can come out with!
You've shown your NET spend over those 3 seasons is -£0.51m, what is your NET profit over those 3 seasons?
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