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New Durham League 3rd Team Rules Farce

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In a nutshell, if you've played on a a weekend for the 2nds you can't play on a Thursday in the 3rds. So in affect you need pretty much a uniqiue squad of third teamers! Currently 16 teams in the league. Ill be amazed if that figure stands at the start of the season. Whoever came up with that bright idea will of ended 3rd team cricket at a few clubs who can't take the risk of the draconian fines for not fielding a team. Don't see the point of changing a format that had worked for years in both the Coast League and Senior League. It's not the most competitive standard but it provides an opportunity for those who can't turn out on a weekend and its somewhere for the juniors to cut their teeth in adult cricket. The worst part is no one was even consulted before hand. New league seem like a proper dictatorship. :evil:
 

Northeastender said:
In a nutshell, if you've played on a a weekend for the 2nds you can't play on a Thursday in the 3rds. So in affect you need pretty much a uniqiue squad of third teamers! Currently 16 teams in the league. Ill be amazed if that figure stands at the start of the season. Whoever came up with that bright idea will of ended 3rd team cricket at a few clubs who can't take the risk of the draconian fines for not fielding a team. Don't see the point of changing a format that had worked for years in both the Coast League and Senior League. It's not the most competitive standard but it provides an opportunity for those who can't turn out on a weekend and its somewhere for the juniors to cut their teeth in adult cricket. The worst part is no one was even consulted before hand. New league seem like a proper dictatorship. :evil:
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That's just mad.

I am not a club cricketer and never have been, but anybody can realise that clubs don't have an infinite pool of players and surely the whole point of a third team is to develop players who could help out the seconds and so on?

Some sports administrators need to take a good hard look in the mirror and remember its just a bloody SPORT. Its almost as if the fact that they are too old to take part themselves makes them want to bugger it up for everyone else.
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
That's just mad.

I am not a club cricketer and never have been, but anybody can realise that clubs don't have an infinite pool of players and surely the whole point of a third team is to develop players who could help out the seconds and so on?

Some sports administrators need to take a good hard look in the mirror and remember its just a bloody SPORT. Its almost as if the fact that they are too old to take part themselves makes them want to bugger it up for everyone else.
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It's totally self defeating!
 
Neither scenario is perfect but I can see why they've done it. It's equally self-defeating for sides to pretty much field their second team in the third division.
 
A rule with no more than 4 players who have played on the Saturday would have been a far better rule IMO. I can see why they have done it but like you say no club has infinite players and this could mean promoting youngsters who aren't ready
 
eddyfinn said:
A rule with no more than 4 players who have played on the Saturday would have been a far better rule IMO. I can see why they have done it but like you say no club has infinite players and this could mean promoting youngsters who aren't ready
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This

Clubs should be able to self regulate to a degree
 
Northeastender said:
In a nutshell, if you've played on a a weekend for the 2nds you can't play on a Thursday in the 3rds. So in affect you need pretty much a uniqiue squad of third teamers! Currently 16 teams in the league. Ill be amazed if that figure stands at the start of the season. Whoever came up with that bright idea will of ended 3rd team cricket at a few clubs who can't take the risk of the draconian fines for not fielding a team. Don't see the point of changing a format that had worked for years in both the Coast League and Senior League. It's not the most competitive standard but it provides an opportunity for those who can't turn out on a weekend and its somewhere for the juniors to cut their teeth in adult cricket. The worst part is no one was even consulted before hand. New league seem like a proper dictatorship. :evil:
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Sound absolutely crazy. Not many clubs will have 33 players available every week, which they will need. When the holiday season kicks in most teams struggle for 22 on a Saturday.
Durham Cricket League jumped the gun in running it's own Midweek 3rd Team League. It should of been left to the Durham Cricket Board to run where it could of run alongside the Junior system. Geographical location with play-off's at the end of season.
NEPL midweek 3rd Team league fixtures are about to be released. 20 Teams involved. Excellently supported by the clubs and the NEPL. Bring it on!!
 
I can't see any sense in barring all 2nd teamers from playing in the 3rds. Fair enough putting a limit on them, 3 or 4 seems about right to me.

There are a lot of lads playing 2nd team cricket on a Saturday who don't take a big part in the game and are there just to make the numbers up, it's those lads who need 3rd team games to get a bat or a bowl on a regular basis.

I really think it needs looking at again before it leads to clubs dropping 3rd teams because of lack of interest.
 
Harry Lime said:
I can't see any sense in barring all 2nd teamers from playing in the 3rds. Fair enough putting a limit on them, 3 or 4 seems about right to me.

There are a lot of lads playing 2nd team cricket on a Saturday who don't take a big part in the game and are there just to make the numbers up, it's those lads who need 3rd team games to get a bat or a bowl on a regular basis.

I really think it needs looking at again before it leads to clubs dropping 3rd teams because of lack of interest.
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Good post Harry. Agree with much of that. Add in eddyfinn's 4 foreigner rule and I think that's about spot on.
 
Former Player said:
Sound absolutely crazy. Not many clubs will have 33 players available every week, which they will need. When the holiday season kicks in most teams struggle for 22 on a Saturday.
Durham Cricket League jumped the gun in running it's own Midweek 3rd Team League. It should of been left to the Durham Cricket Board to run where it could of run alongside the Junior system. Geographical location with play-off's at the end of season.
NEPL midweek 3rd Team league fixtures are about to be released. 20 Teams involved. Excellently supported by the clubs and the NEPL. Bring it on!!
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Sorry should say 10 clubs not 20. Still 18 games so play every week in May, June, July & August. :oops:
 
Sweeper said:
Neither scenario is perfect but I can see why they've done it. It's equally self-defeating for sides to pretty much field their second team in the third division.
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Last year the Coast League was limited to 3 2nd XI players from the weekend and it worked perfectly fine so I'm not sure how that makes it equally self defeating. It only proves that your claim was made without researching the facts.
 
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This daft rule is going to cut both ways. If the seconds are short on a Saturday or Sunday and need someone to come in from the thirds who doesn't normally play second 11 games, that lad could miss out on cricket for two weeks if he's not a junior. It's going to make it harder for second teams to get lads to fill in when a regular is missing if it means the lad coming in has to give up his 3rd team place for a week.
 
Harry Lime said:
This daft rule is going to cut both ways. If the seconds are short on a Saturday or Sunday and need someone to come in from the thirds who doesn't normally play second 11 games, that lad could miss out on cricket for two weeks if he's not a junior. It's going to make it harder for second teams to get lads to fill in when a regular is missing if it means the lad coming in has to give up his 3rd team place for a week.
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Spot on.
 
Northeastender said:
Last year the Coast League was limited to 3 2nd XI players from the weekend and it worked perfectly fine so I'm not sure how that makes it equally self defeating. It only proves that your claim was made without researching the facts.
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What the rules say and what actually happens are two completely separate things. I'm not "for" this rule change but I can see why they've done it. A decent club will be able to field a bona fide third team anyway.
 
Sweeper said:
What the rules say and what actually happens are two completely separate things. I'm not "for" this rule change but I can see why they've done it. A decent club will be able to field a bona fide third team anyway.
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The problem you fail to see is the BONA FIDE third teamer's help make up the second team when they are short. If they refuse to play for the seconds then the club will be well and truly in the mire. They will break the League rules if the fail to field a team, which will lead to severe fines for persistent offenders.

This will lead to clubs not putting a team into the third team league in case this occurs. There are a lot of clubs struggling for numbers.
 
Former Player said:
The problem you fail to see is the BONA FIDE third teamer's help make up the second team when they are short. If they refuse to play for the seconds then the club will be well and truly in the mire. They will break the League rules if the fail to field a team, which will lead to severe fines for persistent offenders.

This will lead to clubs not putting a team into the third team league in case this occurs. There are a lot of clubs struggling for numbers.
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Good post

Change the word mire to fucked tho
 
Sweeper said:
What the rules say and what actually happens are two completely separate things. I'm not "for" this rule change but I can see why they've done it. A decent club will be able to field a bona fide third team anyway.
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What do you mean by decent ?

How does the number of players available make a club 'decent' or not ?
 
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