JAZZMANB
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Agree ,prolific and rated
Cozy was always the name when even non drummers were talking drums
Ie Who does he think he is ?
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Name two underrated drummers (Not necessarily the best):
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Ie Who does he think he is ?
Tex
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Aye cos these two are so under-rated I’m surprised anyone’s even heard of them. (Aye I saw the white text!)
Some good shouts in this thread - Sharrock, Buckler, Brzeziki, Zakk Starkey, Gaynor, Jansen, but not Charlie fuckin’ Watts - has to be the most boring un-creative dullard to get behind a kit with his boring 4-4 tapping - imagine what The Stones would have been like with someone with an ounce of creativity behind the kit. And I’m glad no-one has said Max fuckin Weinberg yet, he sounds like a toddler banging the pots and pans and biscuit tins. Dreadful.
Used to love watching Nigel Preston when The Cult were and actual cult band.
Also underrated cos the band were kinda cheesy but Phillip Gould from Level 42 was very creative.
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Bakerlooline
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Vinyl Score
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Level 42 were (are?) fantastic live, I saw them on the early leg of the massive hit album World Machine tour, before they did a lot of power-ballads, it was the most bouncing audience I had seen (until thrash metal came along). They owe almost everything to Stanley Clarke's band, mind.
Tex
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Used to go to loads of gigs back then. When I lived in England but never did see Level 42. I think I have a video in me brother’s loft that I taped of their World Machine tour when Phil looks like Lofty off Eastenders!
Someone I forgot to mention in my previous post is John Blackwell who used to be in Cameo so I may have seen him in the few times I saw them live but I noticed him when he played with Prince on the ‘Musicology’ tour (2004) and he was absolutely brilliant.
Also I used to get to a few more mellow gigs when I lived in Houston - people like Rachelle Ferrell, George Benson, Anita Baker, Randy Crawford, Jill Scott, Maxwell, and they always seemed to have these amazing drummers who obviously came from a jazz background and play all over the kit with these amazing creative fills and timings but they don’t get noticed much as the drums are more in the background than in rock music.
Another shout - Manu Katche who plays with Sting and Gabriel. I heard an amusing story about when Gabriel got him in the studio (dunno what happened to Jerry Marotta his usual drummer) and they put down the drum track. Then Gabriel said he wanted Manu to do it again (PG is a perfectionist and I suppose was used to doing several takes and choosing the one he liked best). Manu just flat out refused. “I put my heart and soul into that take and you’re not gonna get anything better out of me!” I think guitarist David Rhodes said Marrotta was always on the beat and predictable but it was harder to play with Manu as he came from a Jazz background and just played what he felt like spontaneously so it was a different outcome every time!
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mickb2112
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Brain Downey definitely, he has such a great swing and shuffle that no other drummer could replicate in Lizzy. I`d also add for the same reason Ian Paice of Deep Purple he has just a great groove.
Of the newer drummers Todd Sucherman of Styx and Brian Tichy who`s played with a fair few bands including Dead Daisies are always great to watch. Scott Rockenfield from Queensryche too.
They were a cracking live band. I only saw them once at some Uni gig.
I saw U2 at a uni gig too, just before they broke through. the only thing i remember was Bono climbing up on the lighting equipment
mickb2112
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Love his signature shuffle too. You can always tell when he`s playing
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Nicko mcbrain
The Rev from avenged sevenfold RIP
The Rev from avenged sevenfold RIP
Tex
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Yup. Them little fills in 83rd Dream, then just full-on artillery barrage on Horse Nation. Superb stuff. RIP.
I’ve seen The Cult countless times and the last several years they’ve had this fella in named John Tempesta. He’s alright but the drums are always so low in the live mix and he doesn’t even have a riser. I hung out outside a show once after it was over and got talking to him and a couple of the others in the band over a pint (Billy and Ian were off on a different bus). I asked him why he was so low in the mix and didn’t have a riser and he just shrugged and said that’s the way Ian wants it and I suppose they’re just hired guns so they have to like it or lump it.
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mickb2112
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Loved the middle of Resurrection Joe, which is I think the last thing he did with them.
I never ever used to rate Phil Rudd, I thought he was so basic UNTIL, I saw him live and the way he locked in with Cliff Williams and Malcolm Young it just clicked with me. Sometimes simple is best and his groove in AC/DC is unmatchable.
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Tex
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That bootleg I sent you, Ian had to run upstairs before that song cos he’d left his whistle behind in the dressing room. “Yeah! get funky!” At the drum break he did this tribal dance banging two tambourines over his head. Another time I saw them NP was using a couple of Simmons pads that they swivelled around 180 degrees at that point and Ian banged about on them to add to the cacophony!
mickb2112
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Great call. Love Albert`s playing and he sings too....not to mention comes out and plays guitar too
I only saw them the once with Nigel Preston. I think the next time Les Warner was drumming for them on the Love tour.
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JohnLambie'spigeon
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Buddy Ascott from The Chords
Everett Moreton from The Beat
Everett Moreton from The Beat
Tex
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Try now!
EcosseMackem
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That period with McGeoch on guitar and Budgie on drums was brilliant - they were the best live band I saw in that era and I saw most around at the the time - although I’d confess to watching McGeoch more and wondering how the fk he made it look so effortless
