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Methven still claiming credit

He re-engaged the fanbase by making each and every one of us despise him and his mate Stewrat through their shit decisions and constant bullshit.
Yeah - complete embarrassment from opening press conference ‘pisstake party stops here’ to the ‘some of the fans kidnapped my daughter, but we had a chat and a good laugh about it’

f***ing mental. How dare they think they could just waltz into safc with zero cash and say whatever they f***ing wanted and we’d just lap it all up.

*****.
 

Plenty did though .
At first perhaps…..haven’t heard many approve of them since we realised they’d nicked the parachute payments.

Best forgotten. They’re both irrelevant at the elite level of football we currently find ourselves in.
 
Gist of this thread that PR10 is kildare mackem who in turn is Salmon Pants ?.... what a complete narcissist
 
They did stop the club going into Administration and bought us some time at least. Remember, we were 120m+ in debt.

Got rid of Cattermoles contract and Rodwell plus a whole host of junk players.

I'm not saying CM or Donald are heroes, far from it. But they DID somewhat, save the club.
 
They did stop the club going into Administration and bought us some time at least. Remember, we were 120m+ in debt.

Got rid of Cattermoles contract and Rodwell plus a whole host of junk players.

I'm not saying CM or Donald are heroes, far from it. But they DID somewhat, save the club.
:lol::lol:
 
Unlike Methven and Donald, most understand they don’t have the finance to run Sunderland AFC. They probably wouldn’t have structured a deal where they used the clubs own money to finance a takeover, claim they’d ‘given Ellis £40m’ and then proceed to gut the club, at very best patronise its supporters, and leave it languishing in the third tier of English football for a period of time that was entirely miserable.

But, let’s say I did have the money, I’d have used that to purchase the club and put the parachute payments to work in their intended fashion.
And Ellis would have turned down your offer
 
They did stop the club going into Administration and bought us some time at least. Remember, we were 120m+ in debt.

Got rid of Cattermoles contract and Rodwell plus a whole host of junk players.

I'm not saying CM or Donald are heroes, far from it. But they DID somewhat, save the club.

Didn't Ellis Short pay off all the debt himself once he sold to them?
 
There’s people actually feeding the troll? He has Charlie has his avatar man. He’s clearly on a wind up :lol:
 
Where to start, a week on from the tumultuous play-offs weekend of the EFL? Probably the most professionally satisfying weekend of my career. Not because I was there lifting trophies - I was not, being here in Jamaica watching on the TV - but because promises had been kept; plans had come good.
When I met with Ellis Short in April 2018 prior to taking the club over a few weeks later, it is hard to overstate just how broken Sunderland AFC was. £180 million in debt (much of it to aggressive money-lenders at exorbitant interest rates), and losing £27 million per annum on an operational basis, the club had just finished bottom of the Championship, four points behind Burton Albion. The average crowd that season at the SoL had been a paltry (by SAFC standards) 27,000. We inherited players on multi-season multi-million £ contracts who were quite open about not wanting to play for the club (indeed, several failed to report for pre-season training)
Now is not the time to recount the whole rollercoaster ride (losing twice in the play-offs and making a notorious failed signing!) but certain recollections merit re-visiting, as seminal moments in the re-birth.
Sat alongside Stewart Donald at a Wearside desk, with our red pens systematically chopping out the waste that had brought the club low; Luke O'Nien driving up from L2 Wycombe Wanderers, with his worldly possessions packed in the back of his battered old VW; interviewing (Sporting Director) Kristjaan Speakman on Zoom during the pandemic and seeing his IQ as something rarely encountered in football; being told not to let (head of recruitment) Stuart Harvey get into his car without signing him up, after his interview; travelling to the Italian Lakes in late 2020 to persuade Kyril Dreyfus that he was the guy that could take the club to the next level. From the co-owners to the Sporting Director, the head of recruitment and the club captain, Stewart and I brought them all to the club, believing that they could continue and complete what we had started. Seven years from disaster and possible extinction back to the Promised Land is not bad going, though it is a year or two more than I originally predicted!

Charlton was a different kettle of fish. Much of the club was healthy (not least its Academy and Community Trust), and its fanbase resilient.
However, the business operation and the First Team environment were muddled. The culture (unlike SAFC's) was not toxic but weak. Learning from Sunderland, where we were slow to get the executive team right, strong appointments were made early. In amidst all the deserved praise for others this week, a word for Andy Scott, who left the club in January, but who signed Kayne Ramsay, Thierry Small, Conor Coventry, Greg Docherty, Macualey Gillesphey and Matt Godden for a combined £450,000. Nathan Jones was always Andy's first choice manager, but we eventually got him in Jan '24... and the rest is history. A hugely gratifying 2 year turnaround for a club I'll always love.

He's right that the club was in dire straits but it could have been given to a poodle and they'd have done about the same or better. All of what went right is basically limited to them not turning away Speakman.

Their legacy is losing promotion to Charlton for us with a squad that should have walked league one.

But seems to have done well with them, as bitter as it makes me to admit as I suppose we all thought he'd bring the same curse their way.

They are doing really well though. Part of me is glad we made the prem as otherwise you just f***ing know they'd beat us.
 
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I'm 99% sure this is a wind up, but on this point...

This is factually incorrect. He left his position at the club in 2019, after steering us to 11th in League One. He sold his shares later, but for almost the entire time he was directly involved in day-to-day aspects of the club, he presided over abject failure.

I'll say it again: Cutting is the easy part. You could bring in a golden retriever with a set of dice and achieve cuts. The intent is to move upwards, and that was something he was unable to do. Claiming credit for KLD coming, Speakman coming, and because one player who barely played has ended up being at the club throughout that journey, is an incredible reach. He failed miserably on every level, and the fact that at least 3 proposed ownership groups ran a mile when they saw the inner workings of the shell he had created, tells you that it was likely significantly worse than he would ever admit.

Nobody has played a greater role in almost destroying us as a football club. Claiming credit because he was eventually forced out after lying brazenly about how they funded their purchase, alienating everyone with attacks on the fan base and failing in every critical role he claimed for himself, is his legacy. A fraud of a man, almost in the literal sense.
oof. spot on.
I didn’t see you come in with a consortium. Don’t mock people who have tried and failed if you haven’t tried at all.
He's beyond criticism then? is that right?
 
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I’m on the whole a very tolerant if not entirely forgiving person. I don’t believe for a second that saying sorry will suddenly absolve you of your guilt. But when it comes to people who have ruined the club in the past I feel nothing but a rare pang of anger towards them.
 
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