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Mark Wood

The Rat said:
Such an angry man, no you aren't correct at all, another way of soing untrue.

I know you and GordonMuchall hate England, but no need for all this.

Mark Wood was getting injured when he played for Ashington, before he even played for Durham.


btw Brandon, you keep saying I am just disagreeing with you for the sake of it, I am not

hence why lots of other people have the same view, I am just backing them up.
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I don't hate England, what a fuckin stupid comment. Stop with all that bullshit
 

brandon said:
I’d expect this sort of nonsense from moronic right wing trolls on the politics forum. Genuinely thought the clientele on here were better.

All I’ve done here is to defend my point - despite your abuse, despite you calling me a liar by accusing me of making things up - using real life examples and providing evidence to back up what I believe to be true. Again, I see you’ve found no fault at all with the Jofra Archer example used above.


Now who is the one making things up?

I’m prominent on every England match thread, getting excited when we do well and upset and frustrated when we don’t. Are those the actions of someone who hates England?

Are you still sure you want to go down the route of accusing me of making things up?



A bizarre statement, that has never been up for debate. Nor have I claimed in any of this that Mark Wood is one of the players included in my initial claim about England’s historical record with the ruination of players’ careers.

Now, do you think this time you can address any issue I’ve raised or any statement I’ve made without accusing me of lying or of being angry?

Once again, for clarity, this is me doing no other than defending my position, standing by the point I made and not being drawn into any of the abuse from you or any other poster on this topic.

I’d appreciate if you could respond in the same respectful manner.

No, I said it once.

In fact I didn’t say it, I asked a question. I made no judgement.
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Its a Mark Wood thread!!!!!!!
 
brandon said:
Nobody made that claim. There’s being a contrarian and there’s being a complete f*cking muppet for the sake of causing an argument.
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It’s boring man sick of it, injuries happen sometimes it’s just unlucky, injuries have always happened

There may have been mistakes at times made by medical teams like in any sport.

But certain posters on here blame the authorities all the f***ing time for absolutely everything.

It’s tiresome!

That’s not been contrarian it’s just pointing out the above
You or I have absolutely no idea whatsoever whether Archer was mismanaged by England and his injury is due to that or that his injury was just one of those things that happen to fast bowlers no idea whatsoever!!

However let’s just blame England once again it’s happens time and time again!
 
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Voice of fair play said:
It’s boring man sick of it, injuries happen sometimes it’s just unlucky, injuries have always happened

There may have been mistakes at times made by medical teams like in any sport.

But certain posters on here blame the authorities all the f***ing time for absolutely everything.

It’s tiresome!

That’s not been contrarian it’s just pointing out the above
You or I have absolutely no idea whatsoever whether Archer was mismanaged by England and his injury is due to that or that his injury was just one of those things that happen to fast bowlers no idea whatsoever!!

However let’s just blame England once again it’s happens time and time again!
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Just on Archer, he was absolutely over bowled in that one game in NZ at Mount M, however you spell it, everyone accepts htat. Its one game. That never happened before or since

Every time a bowler gets injured Root in particular gets blamed for bowling him!
 
The Rat said:
Just on Archer, he was absolutely over bowled in that one game in NZ at Mount M, however you spell it, everyone accepts htat. Its one game. That never happened before or since

Every time a bowler gets injured Root in particular gets blamed for bowling him!
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Yeah of course there will be times when that has happened but very much also times when players just unlucky with injuries.

It’s not somebody’s fault all of the time as some would believe on here
 
Voice of fair play said:
You or I have absolutely no idea whatsoever whether Archer was mismanaged by England and his injury is due to that or that his injury was just one of those things that happen to fast bowlers no idea whatsoever!!
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This really the hill you want to die on? :lol:

Every commentator, pundit and journalist and even your pal Johnson knows that Archer was mismanaged.

“You or I” ?!

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Voice of fair play said:
It’s not somebody’s fault all of the time as some would believe on here
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Proof of this or admit you’re just making shit up…

Considering I’ve already covered that:

brandon said:
YES, fast bowlers get injured - I’ve never once denied that or tried to argue to the contrary.

YES, they get injured for every test playing nation - again I’ve never once denied that or tried to argue to the contrary.

YES - it IS a total unnatural thing to do to your body.
It’s possible to make a point about a certain number of bowlers, without having to encompass every single bowler who ever got injured playing for England you know…?
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The Rat said:
I mean ECB mate
not the team or out
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Yeah, course you did…

The Rat said:
I know you and GordonMuchall hate England, but no need for all this.
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You could just be the bigger man and admit you jumped to conclusions and fucked up by making shit up about people. You took my ‘Team England’ to mean ECB. It didn’t.

I’ve come to expect it from the other wankers on here who’ve joined the pile on, thinking it’s mating season and who quite frankly aren’t worthy of naming, but I thought someone as prominent and normally so eloquent and balanced as you on cricketing matters wouldn’t stoop so low.
 
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I have absolutely no evidence to back this up but did old time fast bowlers like Freddie Trueman and Brian Statham seem to be less injured than the modern breed despite bowling infinitely more overs?
 
vinegar hill said:
I have absolutely no evidence to back this up but did old time fast bowlers like Freddie Trueman and Brian Statham seem to be less injured than the modern breed despite bowling infinitely more overs?
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All to do with working down’t pit and drinking copious amounts of ale lad ;)
 
I know it's a Mark Wood thread, but the conversation above is interesting if a bit heated at times !...one bowler I always feel was badly done to by England was Steve Finn. God knows why they tried to change his action, it pretty much finished him.
 
FatCat2402 said:
I know it's a Mark Wood thread, but the conversation above is interesting if a bit heated at times !...one bowler I always feel was badly done to by England was Steve Finn. God knows why they tried to change his action, it pretty much finished him.
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Had to. He kept knocking the stumps a few times an innings - not a problem at the start, but then the ICC changed the laws to make hitting the stumps in your delivery stride a no-ball. ECB had to work with him to cut that out
 
TheRey said:
Had to. He kept knocking the stumps a few times an innings - not a problem at the start, but then the ICC changed the laws to make hitting the stumps in your delivery stride a no-ball. ECB had to work with him to cut that out
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Did he not get that sorted but then they tried to change it again or ask him to bowl short constantly. I've just got a recollection of him looking like he was going to be brilliant but then disappearing off the radar completely.
 
vinegar hill said:
I have absolutely no evidence to back this up but did old time fast bowlers like Freddie Trueman and Brian Statham seem to be less injured than the modern breed despite bowling infinitely more overs?
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Its often said that the only time Fiery Fred got injured was for the camera in his cameo role in Dad's Army. :lol:
vinegar hill said:
In Freddie Trueman’s case that would probably be spot on!
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It's an urban myth that he was a boozer. He even hated the fact he had to be seen holding a pint when he presented The Indoor League in the early 70s.
 
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brandon said:
This really the hill you want to die on? :lol:

Every commentator, pundit and journalist and even your pal Johnson knows that Archer was mismanaged.

“You or I” ?!

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Some good articles
FatCat2402 said:
I know it's a Mark Wood thread, but the conversation above is interesting if a bit heated at times !...one bowler I always feel was badly done to by England was Steve Finn. God knows why they tried to change his action, it pretty much finished him.
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Good shout
 
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