Local league cricket

[ShieldsGreggs4]

Horden, first team are fine. Nice bunch. I don’t mind their ground either.

Second team however are pure scum. The stories I’ve heard and seen are disgusting.

 

[wicketkeeper]

Horden was a dump every time i played there.

But regularly won the league and many cups.
Any serious player would prefer winning titles and cups and playing alongside international players than luxurious changing facilities.
I can think of many clubs with nice facilities who won nowt in all the time I played I wouldn't want to swap places with them.

Horden, first team are fine. Nice bunch. I don’t mind their ground either.

Second team however are pure scum. The stories I’ve heard and seen are disgusting.

Is this now or historical

 

[ShieldsGreggs4]

But regularly won the league and many cups.
Any serious player would prefer winning titles and cups and playing alongside international players than luxurious changing facilities.
I can think of many clubs with nice facilities who won nowt in all the time I played I wouldn't want to swap places with them.



Is this now or historical

The last 3-4 years

 

[wicketkeeper]

Horden, first team are fine. Nice bunch. I don’t mind their ground either.

Second team however are pure scum. The stories I’ve heard and seen are disgusting.

Don't know many of the players now so I wouldn't know.

The last 3-4 years

I don't really know many of their players now and none in the 2nds so wouldn't know.
Shame though if 2nds as you say.

 

[ShieldsGreggs4]

Don't know many of the players now so I wouldn't know.



I don't really know many of their players now and none in the 2nds so wouldn't know.
Shame though if 2nds as you say.

From what I’ve heard/ seen, young chavs in the team causing problems

 

[wicketkeeper]

From what I’ve heard/ seen, young chavs in the team causing problems

Wouldn't surprise me.

Hordon indeed was an utter shithole in the 90s when I used to visit as a junior. I hope things have improved as I can think of few clubs whose facilities haven’t improved dramatically in the past 20 years
Thank god the NEPL insisted clubs invest in facilities

When I look back at my time with Horden in the 90s 00s I remember the league titles we won , the many many cups we won, the 2 fantastic pros I played with ( both of whom played test cricket) . Funnily enough I don't think about the poor changing rooms or sub standard teas.

 

[pavarotti1980]

But regularly won the league and many cups.
Any serious player would prefer winning titles and cups and playing alongside international players than luxurious changing facilities.
I can think of many clubs with nice facilities who won nowt in all the time I played I wouldn't want to swap places with them.



Is this now or historical

It want about luxurious changing facilities, it was more about a concern for health. Maybe it was just conveniently bad timing but it appeared the water was off to wash the away changing rooms and they mustnt have borrowed Triggers brush that week

 

[wicketkeeper]

What was the reputation of the DSL among other leagues in the NE @wicketkeeper?

Don't really know as played in DSL . But they did supply the vast majority of Durham minor counties team.

 

[pavarotti1980]

Don't really know as played in DSL . But they did supply the vast majority of Durham minor counties team.

There in lies the problem. No concept or self awareness of how up their own ar5es they the league was.

 

[wicketkeeper]

It want about luxurious changing facilities, it was more about a concern for health. Maybe it was just conveniently bad timing but it appeared the water was off to wash the away changing rooms and they mustnt have borrowed Triggers brush that week

Like I said when I look back at my time as a player I remember the titles and cups we won and the pros I played with not the changing rooms.

There in lies the problem. No concept or self awareness of how up their own ar5es they the league was.

I don't think you can seriously suggest that teams like Horden, Seaham Harbour and Eppelton were up their own arses.

We didn't insist on electronic scoreboards, umpires turning up 2hours early, or ponse about warming up in track suits.

 

[pavarotti1980]

Like I said when I look back at my time as a player I remember the titles and cups we won and the pros I played with not the changing rooms.



We didn't insist on electronic scoreboards, umpires turning up 2hours early, or ponse about warming up in track suits.

It appears you are still stuck in 90s. Things move on. DSL was regarded as the w4ankers of local cricket due to eliteist clubs (a sense of entitlement) and officals and now you complain about NEPL being eliteist. How ironic

 

[Carteron]

It appears you are still stuck in 90s. Things move on. DSL was regarded as the w4ankers of local cricket due to eliteist clubs (a sense of entitlement) and officals and now you complain about NEPL being eliteist. How ironic

You bump into the odd one around the region. Played a bit in the 80s and 90s in the Senior League and still stuck there thinking it was the greatest era of all time. Yeah it was good, but I'm pretty sure the local lads of this age are just as good, if nto better.

And I fully agree on a previous point about it not being about luxury. Just turning up somewhere and not risking Legionnaires would be a start with some places. People go on about participation. Parents are surely more likely to bring there kids along to a clean, safe environment than some of the hell holes you see around the leagues.

 

[pavarotti1980]

You bump into the odd one around the region. Played a bit in the 80s and 90s in the Senior League and still stuck there thinking it was the greatest era of all time. Yeah it was good, but I'm pretty sure the local lads of this age are just as good, if nto better.

And I fully agree on a previous point about it not being about luxury. Just turning up somewhere and not risking Legionnaires would be a start with some places. People go on about participation. Parents are surely more likely to bring there kids along to a clean, safe environment than some of the hell holes you see around the leagues.

You want good facilities. In the time since I started playing cricket in the early 90s the facilities have grown naturally through time, with investment from ECB and other initiatives such as Cricket Force. There is still some hovels around but generally now the standard has increased. Better facilities increase the standard of cricket played.

I think some of the dinosaurs you mention still walk round the grounds in their 90s tracksuit tops

 

[BatEleven]

We didn't insist on electronic scoreboards, umpires turning up 2hours early, or ponse about warming up in track suits.

Electronic Scoreboards - This is part of the criteria as set out by the ECB. This is NOT criteria that the NEPL has set. If this was the only issue, I highly doubt a club would be refused entry to the league. As it happens, most clubs have an electronic scoreboard because it's 2018 not 1988.

Umpires turning up 2 hours early - Why on earth would it bother you that umpires turn up early for games? What is your problem with that? I can't envisage being involved in cricket where an umpire turning up early would cause me any concern.

Ponse about warming up in track suits - You really get offended by a track suit? The shock and absolute horror of a sports team wearing a track suit. Stop the press.

 

[Hilly]

You bump into the odd one around the region. Played a bit in the 80s and 90s in the Senior League and still stuck there thinking it was the greatest era of all time. Yeah it was good, but I'm pretty sure the local lads of this age are just as good, if nto better.

And I fully agree on a previous point about it not being about luxury. Just turning up somewhere and not risking Legionnaires would be a start with some places. People go on about participation. Parents are surely more likely to bring there kids along to a clean, safe environment than some of the hell holes you see around the leagues.

Precisely. I'm not suggesting that every club needs to be like the Burnopfields or Mainsforths of the world. Just to a certain minimum standard.

For example, the pitch doesn't risk serious injury and the facilities are of a 'decent' standard e.g. toilets cleaned, working lights, enough room to get changed in etc... Just basic bog standard stuff.

 

[pavarotti1980]

Precisely. I'm not suggesting that every club needs to be like the Burnopfields or Mainsforths of the world. Just to a certain minimum standard.

For example, the pitch doesn't risk serious injury and the facilities are of a 'decent' standard e.g. toilets cleaned, working lights, enough room to get changed in etc... Just basic bog standard stuff.

I guess some clubs definition of bog standard is different from the majority

 

[Hilly]

I guess some clubs definition of bog standard is different from the majority

Agreed. Going back to my original point though - my gripe is that new clubs are expected to adhere to these rules whereas, to use wicketkeepers expression, 'established' clubs are allowed to let their grounds to go to rack and ruin but spend vast amounts of money on an overseas pro / number of decent local lads.

League committees should be made to visit grounds each season to see that minimum standards are being maintained and if not, clubs are not allowed to pay money out for players. Any club found breaking this will then face points deductions.

 

[pavarotti1980]

Agreed. Going back to my original point though - my gripe is that new clubs are expected to adhere to these rules whereas, to use wicketkeepers expression, 'established' clubs are allowed to let their grounds to go to rack and ruin but spend vast amounts of money on an overseas pro / number of decent local lads.

League committees should be made to visit grounds each season to see that minimum standards are being maintained and if not, clubs are not allowed to pay money out for players. Any club found breaking this will then face points deductions.

It mirrors local football in a lot of things. They have ground inspections. How much effort would it take for the league exec to set up a ground sub-committee who look after inspections, recommended remedial action, contacts with appropriate companies and help with grant applications etc.

This may already happen but it would be sensible if it doesnt

 

[wicketkeeper]

Agreed. Going back to my original point though - my gripe is that new clubs are expected to adhere to these rules whereas, to use wicketkeepers expression, 'established' clubs are allowed to let their grounds to go to rack and ruin but spend vast amounts of money on an overseas pro / number of decent local lads.

League committees should be made to visit grounds each season to see that minimum standards are being maintained and if not, clubs are not allowed to pay money out for players. Any club found breaking this will then face points deductions.

Oh my goodness as I keep saying I remember the league titles and cups I won and the pros I played with not the facilities.

Its this kind of attitude that has contributed to the decline of cricket in the region.
Spectators came to watch Horden V Blackhall to watch Haynes v Parry not visit the toilets!

 

[Former Player]

Visited Hunwick CC for the 1st time ever on Saturday as our game was off. Heard that the ground and facilities were to a good standard. Must say I wasn’t disappointed. Obviously loads of work has been done over recent years and it really shows.
Congratulations to all the people who have worked hard to achieve this.
If the DCL have made them jump through hoops to gain entry into the League then they must ensure all clubs playing in their set up have to have the same standards.