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You're a bit out of date now mate

The Digital Economy Act has been passed into law and makes streaming copyright content illegal. So your whole point no longer stands
That only compels search providers (google) to de-list any "pirate" sites. It hasn't changed the copyright laws or distribution act.



You might be right though, I am a bit out of date. I don't download as much as I used to and haven't kept up with the law changes in the past year.
 

It's all one big grey area. It's definitely not "illegal" to download though unless you're sharing it. The laws were there for DVD's, VHS, CD's etc physical media, and still haven't caught up to the digital age.

Personally I dl everything and haven't paid for a film since I bought The Matrix ower 10 years ago. I don't plan on stopping either.

Just one word of advice to people that download... Don't use torrents. They WILL get you nicked/fined unless you have an iron-clad VPN, and even then it's a risk.
It DEFINITELY IS ILLEGAL to download and always has been!

And as someone who works in "media" (although not TV/Films) stop stealing others hard work eh?

What if I downloaded a movie from my telly box, paid forty-nine kroner for it and had it on the box for forty-eight hours till it goes away again by itself but before then record the movie and put it onto a DVD as I would like to keep it ? :oops:
Then as soon as the time limit has ended you have broken the law. You can argue that the DVD copy was a back-up in case of your TV connection going down within the rental period (it may still not work, but you could try), but you have made a legal agreement to pay for 48 hours access to the movie - once that ends, you should be deleting/destroying the DVD copy.
 
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It DEFINITELY IS ILLEGAL to download and always has been!

And as someone who works in "media" (although not TV/Films) stop stealing others hard work eh?
It hasn't always been. There were no laws covering digital media. Distribution of copyright material is illegal, yes, but streaming a match isn't, nor is downloading a song and listening to it.

It's the sharing part that's illegal.

And btw, studies have been done that show piracy actually encourages more people to buy it. I watch a film, tell you it's brilliant, then you go out and buy it. People/companies now even "leak" stuff online to get exposure.
 
It DEFINITELY IS ILLEGAL to download and always has been!

And as someone who works in "media" (although not TV/Films) stop stealing others hard work eh?


Then as soon as the time limit has ended you have broken the law. You can argue that the DVD copy was a back-up in case of your TV connection going down within the rental period (it may still not work, but you could try), but you have made a legal agreement to pay for 48 hours access to the movie - once that ends, you should be deleting/destroying the DVD copy.

Thank you.
 
That only compels search providers (google) to de-list any "pirate" sites. It hasn't changed the copyright laws or distribution act.



You might be right though, I am a bit out of date. I don't download as much as I used to and haven't kept up with the law changes in the past year.
It doesn't only do that, there has been a big kick back due to it being a little bit too vague in the wording on who will be charged and fined for online copyright infringement which the government have only given their word that they won't target end users in court.

ECJ have also just ruled on streaming being covered with general copyright infringement outside of the UK recent changes of law.

You keep repeating things that aren't relevant any more and can't be used as a get out clause.
 
Illegal streams in the UK probably do impact attendances - although I acknowledge it is very hard to calculate a number (although no doubt the clubs have tried :lol:).

I know our attendances have officially increased over the last few seasons; but as a season card holder in the North Stand, it has to be said a large number of tickets are being given away cheaply by the club and this inflates the attendance.

With regards to an official service being launched; I am in no doubt that one will come alone in the next 3-5 years. People however will need to realise that these services won't be cheap and certainly won't be priced like the illegal services.

I have NFL game pass which cost me £140 yesterday (or about 30 a month when you consider the length of a NFL season). Although the pass has it faults, in general it's good and allows me to watch the majority of my team's games. HOWEVER :lol:, there are still blackouts should Sky show the game - so if you want to guarantee to watch your team, you need a Sky subscription or a Now TV pass.

If the PL or EFL launched a similar platform, I fully expect the cost to be around £25 a month - but a Sky/BT subscription would still be required to be able to view all the games as TV matches will be subject to blackout.
Are you based in the states then ?
I have an IOPTV sub that gets me every single NFL.CFL<MLB,NBA game , I have a bunch of pals in the states who are all using it as well. cost - less than $5pm.
 
Are you based in the states then ?
I have an IOPTV sub that gets me every single NFL.CFL<MLB,NBA game , I have a bunch of pals in the states who are all using it as well. cost - less than $5pm.

No mate, the UK.

What's the craic with an IOPTV sub?
 
It hasn't always been. There were no laws covering digital media. Distribution of copyright material is illegal, yes, but streaming a match isn't, nor is downloading a song and listening to it.

It's the sharing part that's illegal.

And btw, studies have been done that show piracy actually encourages more people to buy it. I watch a film, tell you it's brilliant, then you go out and buy it. People/companies now even "leak" stuff online to get exposure.
AAAAAQQAARGHHHHHHHHH How many times?!?!?

IT IS ILLEGAL TO DOWNLOAD COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL WITHOUT PERMISSION.

Sharing just makes the crime *WORSE*.

And don't try and justify stealing to me. Its people like me that lose jobs and don't get paid for work because of the rampant piracy and this attitude that its "ok".
 
Was the club's stance right about this? Being honest, how many people here would have invested in a VPN or something along those lines and just watched the games online instead of going to the match?

Got a season ticket and goto several away games, wouldn't stop me going to a game, but would allow me to watch games i dont goto (away games and a home game if im away and can't make the match)
 
just to rub salt in Bein sports has yet to confirm that it's our game they're showing (here)....

They aren't. Showing Monaco v Toulouse instead on the main channel, bumping us to the online service on BeIn3. I don't see any indication of it being televised later.
 
They aren't. Showing Monaco v Toulouse instead on the main channel, bumping us to the online service on BeIn3. I don't see any indication of it being televised later.

the french game is on bein sports 3 here, bein sports 2 has a placeholder for "Live Football: Teams TBC", so it's either us or the forest game. don't think i've ever watched us on a saturday morning before, i've been strangely looking forward to it...
 
the french game is on bein sports 3 here, bein sports 2 has a placeholder for "Live Football: Teams TBC", so it's either us or the forest game. don't think i've ever watched us on a saturday morning before, i've been strangely looking forward to it...

Aggh, forgot you're in Oz.

And I live Saturday morning - 3 p.m. kickoffs are 7 a.m. here. Losses used to ruin my weekend, but I've developed immunity over the years.
 
the french game is on bein sports 3 here, bein sports 2 has a placeholder for "Live Football: Teams TBC", so it's either us or the forest game. don't think i've ever watched us on a saturday morning before, i've been strangely looking forward to it...

There's another 'blank' game at 8:30am so assuming whichever one isn't live will be replayed here. Hoping we get the 8:30 timeslot so I don't have to get up at stupid o'clock.
 
There's another 'blank' game at 8:30am so assuming whichever one isn't live will be replayed here. Hoping we get the 8:30 timeslot so I don't have to get up at stupid o'clock.

i'd prefer if it's live as I'll record it and put it on when i stumble out of bed around 7.
 
Not sure if SEB but....

If the this is true it's amazing news and we'll done to everyone who emailed the club - can't help but think it might have helped the cause. Glad it appears to have been righted!!
 
Not sure if SEB but....

If the this is true it's amazing news and we'll done to everyone who emailed the club - can't help but think it might have helped the cause. Glad it appears to have been righted!!
And for the rest of us who are lucky enough not to live in the Trumpian States of America?
 
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