Live streaming platform unveiled for global EFL fans...

[Definitely Maybe]

All I'm saying is if legal streams for matches are available then it could affect attendances negatively. The club have explained why they aren't offering this service and explained it well. The angry emails from people were an overreaction.



I'll take Quinn's opinion more serious than yours

The streams are aimed at foreign supporters but no doubt they will be available in this country.

You say streams could affect attendances

Streams have been available for the best part of a decade - why have our attendances increased year on year?

Genuine fans want to see at games that they can't go to but you're gleeful that they can't. That's a shit reaction

 

[HBSAFC]

You say streams could affect attendances

Streams have been available for the best part of a decade - why have our attendances increased year on year?

Genuine fans want to see at games that they can't go to but you're gleeful that they can't. That's a shit reaction

Maybe our attendances could have increased even more if no streams? Cannot prove otherwise its an opinion.

I am only 'gleeful' the gobshites who choose not to attend won't be able to watch games.

 

[Definitely Maybe]

Maybe our attendances could have increased even more if no streams? Cannot prove otherwise its an opinion.

I am only 'gleeful' the gobshites who choose not to attend won't be able to watch games.

But you're replying to and taking the piss out of overseas exiles and people who just want to watch the aways

Embarrassing

 

[HBSAFC]

But you're replying to and taking the piss out of overseas exiles and people who just want to watch the aways

Embarrassing

Not taken the piss out of anyone, just posted my thoughts on the topic. I've been told to fuck off and called a dick just for having a different opinion.

 

[I Claudio]

Not taken the piss out of anyone, just posted my thoughts on the topic. I've been told to fuck off and called a dick just for having a different opinion.

My gut still says troll, but I'll take you at face value.

If your main complaint is that the iFollow system will be susceptible to illegal streams, the flaw is that the 26 matches against clubs using iFollow will already be available. Plus, games shown on Sky or shown internationally on television (as at least one 3 p.m. Saturday start every week is) will also be available - there are three of those by September 16, if you play the math of the number of matches show and the number of non-iFollow teams, it's probably another 7 or 8. So what we're looking at here is maybe 12-15 games that the club is protecting from streaming by not joining iFollow, and only half of those at home. Bit petty, isn't it?

As for the costs of production - the club already has equipment, it already has to use it to provide material for the various highlight packages and the like. So the only cost is that of actually doing the streaming, which is minimal.

Most of us posting here are overseas. Most of us would be happy to avoid dodgy streams if the club would give us a means to pay a reasonable price for a service, and the club could recoup much, if not all, of the minimal cost. To deny us that in order to prevent, at most, a few hundred people in the UK to choose streaming over attending in half a dozen matches is not seeing the forest for the trees.

 

[AlpineExile]

I wasn't quoting you

I was asking you to clarify a question you'd asked Def Maybe.

Quinn said that in early 2011 though, the world has moved on since then

Quinn was referring to fans who spent all day drinking in pubs a mile or two away from the ground drinking while we played at home, not your average season ticket holder who streams away games on Kodi from the settee.

I agree with Quinn for the record and don't think pubs in the town should show home games, but our attendance have increased year on year since then and pubs are a lot less popular for games now.

You're right though, the people who stream home games aren't real fans, and that is exactly the point. They aren't suddenly going to buy a ticket, they'll still go on the drink instead, the match was just an excuse.

The vast majority of people nowadays stream away games only yet we sell out all bar 1-2 away games every year. You don't seem to grasp this

Unless the home end has sold out for that particular home game.

 

[I Claudio]

Of the 11 Championship clubs not doing iFollow, seven of them are offering every available match live overseas (the exceptions are those already televised). An eighth, Bristol City, has something about providing options once they work out details with the EFL. Three say nothing at all and are apparently not offering it - us, Aston Villa and Hull City. I didn't check the three clubs in League One or Two.

Birmingham City's FAQ page provides the best detail, including the information about cameras and production.

You must be logged on to see external links

We're getting left out in the cold here, it becomes more pathetic the more information becomes available.

 

[Crammers]

Perhaps, although I suspect there is probably some way that the Football League can demand at least a 1camera system be made available.

I might send something to the NASA guys - maybe if the overseas supporters branches start complaining, there might be more traction on this.

NASA lads are already all over it, a strong email has been sent to various top bods at SAFC, including the owner and the NASA Chairman is on the agenda a the next BLC meeting when he'll be calling in to further discuss this decision.

The club have made the right decision with this. Match-going fans should be the priority. People saying we are losing money by not doing these streams but I think the opposite. If we offered streams then attendances could drop so miss out on ticket money and club even said don't know cost of stream to them so might not even make a profit doing it.

So many armchair gobshites about too (not saying everyone is before someone says) so couldn't give a fuck about them.

Also some of the emails being sent on here are cringeworthy. I might send one congratulating the club on a good decision

You Sir, are a reet bellend

 

[Tongey]

The club can't use an excuse of it affecting attendances IMO as it's 'not available' to UK fans. If they looked closer to home and made prices cheaper in the stadium and ticket prices at a reasonable price (which to be fair we are pretty good) then it might attract people to go. But they've put prices up in the ground to £4.20 per pint (10p increase)

If they made it £3 a pint, even between doors opening and 30mins before ko, more would go in rather than goto pubs etc. They are looking for any excuse not to provide something which would be pretty simple to do and also provide hundreds if not thousands of fans an opportunity to pay them directly for streams.

One of their reasoning's was the costs of providing the coverage, but they have all the equipment already which they state, and would provide to show a replay.

The costs of the full replay being shown and a live stream being shown would be a minimal difference, yet the number of people who pay for it will be significant. Again the club are failing to move forward, and take an opportunity thats being handed on a plate. If clubs in league 1 & 2 can provide it then surely a club who has everything in place and a fairly big oversea's following can do so.

 

[GiantHogweed]

Waters sent me a cookie cutter response... says he's collating all fan emails on the subject to pass on to club decision makers.

Colour me skeptical that it will have any impact...

Dear Mr. Weed,

I have received your email and I will be collating all supporter feedback on this. I will ensure that your comments on Ifollow are sent on to the relevant department.

Best regards

Chris​

 

[BlkCatYank24]

Waters sent me a cookie cutter response... says he's collating all fan emails on the subject to pass on to club decision makers.

Colour me skeptical that it will have any impact...

Dear Mr. Weed,

I have received your email and I will be collating all supporter feedback on this. I will ensure that your comments on Ifollow are sent on to the relevant department.

Best regards

Chris​

Got the same response.

 

[hank williams]

Got the same response.

Aww didums

 

[Nelson!]

Of the 11 Championship clubs not doing iFollow, seven of them are offering every available match live overseas (the exceptions are those already televised). An eighth, Bristol City, has something about providing options once they work out details with the EFL. Three say nothing at all and are apparently not offering it - us, Aston Villa and Hull City. I didn't check the three clubs in League One or Two.

Birmingham City's FAQ page provides the best detail, including the information about cameras and production.

You must be logged on to see external links

We're getting left out in the cold here, it becomes more pathetic the more information becomes available.

So two clubs with a dickhead owner who won't spend any money because they don't give a shit about the club or it's fans and another with a dickhead owner who has been moaning on about ffp being an issue for them this summer and having no budget.

We're being left out because Ellis Short has given up on SAFC. That's fine, he needs to accept his losses and fuck off so we can have our club back.

 

[hank williams]

So two clubs with a dickhead owner who won't spend any money because they don't give a shit about the club or it's fans and another with a dickhead owner who has been moaning on about ffp being an issue for them this summer and having no budget.

We're being left out because Ellis Short has given up on SAFC. That's fine, he needs to accept his losses and fuck off so we can have our club back.

There's 14 other championship clubs not signed upto it

But let's blame Ellis

 

[Nelson!]

Waters sent me a cookie cutter response... says he's collating all fan emails on the subject to pass on to club decision makers.

Colour me skeptical that it will have any impact...

Dear Mr. Weed,

I have received your email and I will be collating all supporter feedback on this. I will ensure that your comments on Ifollow are sent on to the relevant department.

Best regards

Chris​

I sincerely hope the lanky bellend who has ruined SAFC gets a look at the email I sent about him and his cohorts and their running of the club. Would make me very happy.

There's 14 other championship clubs not signed upto it

But let's blame Ellis

and most of them are offering a service though their own website. only three are offering nothing. Short is a cunnt.

 

[chopsfc007]

I sincerely hope the lanky bellend who has ruined SAFC gets a look at the email I sent about him and his cohorts and their running of the club. Would make me very happy.



and most of them are offering a service though their own website. only three are offering nothing. Short is a cunnt.

Don't confuse him

 

[admwil]

Of the 11 Championship clubs not doing iFollow, seven of them are offering every available match live overseas (the exceptions are those already televised). An eighth, Bristol City, has something about providing options once they work out details with the EFL. Three say nothing at all and are apparently not offering it - us, Aston Villa and Hull City. I didn't check the three clubs in League One or Two.

Birmingham City's FAQ page provides the best detail, including the information about cameras and production.

You must be logged on to see external links

We're getting left out in the cold here, it becomes more pathetic the more information becomes available.

Brilliant communication by Birmingham that. It's not hard is it.

 

[elder]

The club have made the right decision with this. Match-going fans should be the priority. People saying we are losing money by not doing these streams but I think the opposite. If we offered streams then attendances could drop so miss out on ticket money and club even said don't know cost of stream to them so might not even make a profit doing it.

So many armchair gobshites about too (not saying everyone is before someone says) so couldn't give a fuck about them.

Also some of the emails being sent on here are cringeworthy. I might send one congratulating the club on a good decision

alright WHED lad...

 

[bonnylad]

Maybe our attendances could have increased even more if no streams? Cannot prove otherwise its an opinion.

I am only 'gleeful' the gobshites who choose not to attend won't be able to watch games.

I fully understand your position on people watching streams in areas near the SOL even though they could be financially challenged by the entrance prices.However speaking from my own personal circumstances, I'm retired not flush living over 3hrs drive from the SOL and would willing pay for a stream run by the club.The alternative for me is to spend over £150 all told to get to a home,never mind away games.Only saying!BTW first game at ROKER PARK circa 1956

 

[BlkCatYank24]

Any more info on the 24hr delayed stream? As pathetic as it is I'll probably use it from time to time. Could try and avoid the result especially mid-week matches as I'm working anyway. Of course they'll probably have the score plastered on the site as you navigate to the stream page