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daveydavey said:
If Wilder can land so devastatingly on Fury itā€™s almost certain he would find AJ, and that would be it
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Said exactly the same last night. Wilder won't go down as a technical great but he is better than he is given credit for. Fury isn't an easy man to hit, he is massive and ridiculously agile for his size and weight. His outstretched arm is like a barge pole.

Wilder still managed to clock him hard at put him down 3 times.

He will absolutely be able to tag Joshua.
 
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Enjoyed the fight. It was a hot pace and neither really staggered the other. Usyk is such a clever mover and personally I thought that was the best Iā€™ve seen from Joshua for about three fights

the right man won

re the after fight palaver, that was a top sportsman , full of pent up anger and adrenaline.
 
Keith S30S said:
Fair comment, he did catch him with a few good body shots. But I was shocked when I saw the replay of his big head attack. Literally nothing but a flick landed.
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Commentators creaming themselves over very little; same can be said for some Usyk attacks...He was hitting bott-all upstairs except two on the bell at the end of the third, and for 2/3rds of it except the occasion straight left, all told. He was shit.
 
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Thunder Road said:
Wilder basically confirmed he turned down a lucrative offer to fight Joshua and the Fury fight was all signed until Wilder activated the rematch clause.

Whether Joshua would beat them or not is irrelevant but the facts are he/his team have tried to make those fights.
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There's a lot of 'Joshua ducked Wilder, no Wilder ducked Joshua' that goes on. The devil is in the detail I think.

They needed to fight each other in 2018 after he beat Parker (Povetkin was mandatory but undisputed would have taken priority). Hearn made a lowball offer ($12m I think) which PBC rejected and countered with a $50m offer. But it didn't get as far as actually exchanging contracts and fizzled out so Joshua took the Povetkin mandatory instead.

As we know, Wilder went on to face Fury (think Fury took $8m - Wilder essentially cherry picked him thinking he was still a washed up fat fuck and he'd get a name on his record). The demand for the rematch was massive and there was hell on when it was suggested Wilder could face AJ instead. Meanwhile, Hearn already had Wembley booked for March and September before Fury's comeback, thinking there was nowhere else Wilder could go and they could lowball him into accepting. But with Wilder tied up with Fury they needed an opponent. They tried to create a bit of a faux rivalry with Whyte after his Chisora rematch and made him an offer of Ā£5m but Whyte rejected it. So they went back to Wilder but he was already committed to Fury, even if the rematch wouldn't happen for another year and he went on to face Breazeale and Ortiz in the meantime while PBC and Top Rank sorted things out.

Sorry not having a go at you or anything ;), it's just the narrative that Wilder ducked Joshua irrationally irritates me. Neither ducked the other and I have no doubt Joshua would have taken it, but Hearn thought they controlled the division as they could pick any drunk out the crowd and still sell out Wembley. But Fury's return scuppered that.

It's a proper sliding doors moment and it shows why these fights need to be made and not fall through because of politics. Joshua's sole focus was to become undisputed. He had the opportunity and I believe he would have beaten Wilder. Before Fury it was thought the only way to beat Wilder was to outbox him and try and avoid the right hand - Fury showed the template is to be aggressive and Joshua had just outboxed Parker but was upset at the criticism he received for not finishing him and would have likely gone for it vs Wilder. But Hearn got greedy and thought he could squeeze another few million out if it (obviously Joshua and 258 have to take some responsibility as well). Instead, Fury nipped in and became a star on the back of that 12th round, Joshua had nowhere to go other than America to face Miller/Ruiz which sent him on a completely different path and Fury became the man. All roads would still have led to Usyk as he became mandatory by moving up, but I said the other day that Joshua had had smoke blown up his arse from day 1 and can't deal with not being number 1 and his mental problems stem from Fury becoming the people's champion, which wouldn't have happened without him facing Wilder.

What could have been eh. Think he is mentally shot and clearly scared of getting hit now so Wilder would beat him. Doubt we'll ever see him vs Fury either which is a travesty.
 
Anthony Joshua is an utter fraud.

32 yearold. Iā€™ll never now he beat WK in 2017. Itā€™s literally the only decent name on his resume yet heā€™s a multi millionaire and box office headliner :lol:
 
Scootsie said:
People wonā€™t like to admit it mind.

I canā€™t see the fight even happening anyway, he had his chance previously and chose not to.
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He had his chance before when no titles were at stake only his.
Different ball game now.
Tommasi said:
Bet all the lads who hated Khan hate Joshua like :lol:
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This is implying some sort of race card? Throw Hamilton into the mix why not.

I canā€™t stand khan. Why? Because I know what he did at Manchester airport. Not because his Asian.
I donā€™t like Joshua either. Not because he is black, but because personally I think he is arrogant, thinks he is something that he isnā€™t and has lived his boxing career out of a lie. That isnā€™t his fault however, Iā€™m not a great fan of Hearn either but Iā€™m not sure where this fits into you rhetoric.

In your stupid analogy people would dislike fury as he is from the travelling community?

Your post is pathetic.
 
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bowers2 said:
He had his chance before when no titles were at stake only his.
Different ball game now.


This is implying some sort of race card? Throw Hamilton into the mix why not.

I canā€™t stand khan. Why? Because I know what he did at Manchester airport. Not because his Asian.
I donā€™t like Joshua either. Not because he is black, but because personally I think he is arrogant, thinks he is something that he isnā€™t and has lived his boxing career out of a lie. That isnā€™t his fault however, Iā€™m not a great fan of Hearn either but Iā€™m not sure where this fits into you rhetoric.

In your stupid analogy people would dislike fury as he is from the travelling community?

Your post is pathetic.
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And what's that?
 
AJ could (and probably should) ride off into the sunset as a two time world champion.

I actually think he does care about legacy though and he might take the Fury and/or Wilder fight. I don't think he troubles Fury much but he's probably a better boxer than Wilder and it would be an interesting bout.

Post fight comments were interesting.

"Anthony Joshua visibly distraught and covers his face when asked if he's proud of himself at press conference after the Oleksandr Usyk rematch loss: "It's really really hard for me to say I'm proud of myself. I don't feel anything. I'm just upset, really, deep down in my heart."
 
Banks said:
He dropped the belts on the floor. Undefedable really
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That was a total lack of respect.
I am very surprised he hasnā€™t been hammered for this.
It was my interpretation that he didnā€™t agree with the decision and half way through his rant he changed the narrative.
Mackem Tommy said:
And what's that?
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Iā€™m not going to go into it.
Both parties were wrong, however, shows khan up to exactly what the horrible bastard is.
 
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