Kimpioka

[The Rat]

It's a f***ing idiotic policy.

Mad

It’s means we would have none of Maja goals this season

Why do people keep going on about their the Decision to Sell Him. He would've been on his way for nowt, as we speak. He did not want to be with us. Plain and simple

So wrong like

So fuck he would have gone for nothing?

We could have been in the championship

We are in league one, but great we have ab extra 1.5m

This obsession with people wanting to be here

They would all leave for a better offer, there is nothing wrong with that

You think o’nien wouldn’t leave in a flash if Bordeaux came in?

Good luck to them

We were so amateurish about Maja

 

[Dogbark]

Mad

It’s means we would have none of Maja goals this season



So wrong like

So fuck he would have gone for nothing?

We could have been in the championship

We are in league one, but great we have ab extra 1.5m

This obsession with people wanting to be here

They would all leave for a better offer, there is nothing wrong with that

You think o’nien wouldn’t leave in a flash if Bordeaux came in?

Good luck to them

We were so amateurish about Maja

 

[Boo]

He's good in the air, fast and brings some random excitement. But his performances have been farcical at times.

 

[manamamackem]

And we would more than likely be a championship club right now. He may have stayed if we got promoted. Had we replaced him properly then wouldnt be even worth talking about BUT as usual we didnt.

The world is full of 'Ifs' marra. The team was winding down with that run of draws when he left anyway

 

[naughtynose]

Is it just me who couldn't give a fuck if he signs a new deal or not?

Looks like an erratic joke of footballer when I've seen him if you ask me, like a very poor mans Lua Lua (the other mag one not the one who played for us as well)

 

[West_Winger]

Mad

It’s means we would have none of Maja goals this season



So wrong like

So fuck he would have gone for nothing?

We could have been in the championship

We are in league one, but great we have ab extra 1.5m

This obsession with people wanting to be here

They would all leave for a better offer, there is nothing wrong with that

You think o’nien wouldn’t leave in a flash if Bordeaux came in?

Good luck to them

We were so amateurish about Maja

We don’t have a penny.

They were trying to use Maja instead of paying for the final instalment on Khazri.

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[Perryqhill]

Without reading the full thread, has anyone explained the reason is he isn't good enough (yet)? Quite simple really

He's looked ok in spells in the Checkatrade, but his league cameos have just highlighted that he's a lot of work to do as he's very erratic and has no first touch. Looked miles away from being ready for League One for me.

We don’t have a penny.

They were trying to use Maja instead of paying for the final instalment on Khazri.

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And then they went out and spent twice as much on Grigg?

Simply doesn't add up nomatter how many times you repeat the same daft argument. The problem was Maja wasn't prepared to join the clubs in England who were offering more as he knew he wouldn't play. They then tried to maximise what they could get for him by using the fact Bordeaux was owed money.

 

[dave hedgehog]

The world is full of 'Ifs' marra. The team was winding down with that run of draws when he left anyway

Yep. And after the 61 games played anyone with half a brain cell is wondering 'what if' regarding maja and how th season may have ended had he stayed.

What if we didnt replace him with shite what if he ended up staying because he got us promoted and wanted to be a part of the 1st team in championship.

We're left with no more what ifs. It went tits up re: maja. Same old shite

 

[West_Winger]

He's looked ok in spells in the Checkatrade, but his league cameos have just highlighted that he's a lot of work to do as he's very erratic and has no first touch. Looked miles away from being ready for League One for me.



And then they went out and spent twice as much on Grigg?

Simply doesn't add up nomatter how many times you repeat the same daft argument. The problem was Maja wasn't prepared to join the clubs in England who were offering more as he knew he wouldn't play. They then tried to maximise what they could get for him by using the fact Bordeaux was owed money.

How many times does it need to be said - we don’t pay upfront for players. We spread the cost over their contract.

Hence why we owed £3 million of a £9 million transfer this July. We’ll have spent about £750k this year on Grigg at most with the rest coming in later instalments.

 

[Perryqhill]

How many times does it need to be said - we don’t pay upfront for players. We spread the cost over their contract.

Hence why we owed £3 million of a £9 million transfer this July. We’ll have spent about £750k this year on Grigg at most with the rest coming in later instalments.

But we only got 1.5m initially for Maja, the rest is in incentives.

We and other clubs also pay what's agreed and sometimes to entice clubs we will pay more up front, so you have no idea how much we gave as an initial payment for Grigg - you have just made that up. You're confusing player amortisation over the length of their contracts with whatever shit you agree with said club for said player, there doesn't have to be any correlation with the length of their contract.

I would imagine we didn't also owe 3m for Khazri at that point given we signed him for 9m, had sold him and we signed him on a 4 and a half year deal. If we were paying 3m out of 9m two years out signing him to finish his transfer off, then it just goes to prove you're talking absolute bollocks about spreading the cost of their transfer over the length of his contract, as he had two and a half more years to run.

 

[sheepfarmer]

Aye because playing Maja was a disaster

The decision to sell him was suicidal

We decided to sell him when it became apparent he wanted us to give him away

 

[Plank]

He’s ‘raw’, I think that’s being polite, he’s f***ing terrible from what I’ve seen, just seems to bounce about like a gazelle...without the ball as he can’t f***ing control one.

Coming from the bloke who rates Grigg.

 

[Twisted]

Cos he hasn't signed a new contract and we're not going to get done like we did with Maja.
I tend to agree.
Play kimps next season, support him in a few dodgy outings when we're bloodng him and then he starts to look good and goes on a free next June

aye much better we pay him to do fuck all and not play him and then someone gets him for free out of our youth set up anyway

 

[The Rat]

We don’t have a penny.

They were trying to use Maja instead of paying for the final instalment on Khazri.

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Then that’s why they got rid isn’t it

Even worse

 

[Perryqhill]

Won't sign a contract? Use some imagination and put in place incentives for performance etc.
Have we not learnt from the Maja shambles?


Yes.

If you had listened to them, that's exactly what they said they were going to do when signing young lads up, offer them incentives and deals with incremental increases depending on appearances, age etc. then there's also the fact these can be renegotiated anyway if the player is doing well, as the club will clearly want to keep them.

You seem to be ignoring that these guys will also have an agent in their ear telling them they'll get more elsewhere and offering them the world.

If Kimpioka who is some distance away from being a league one player won't comit his short term future at 19 with a grand total of seven games behind him, then he can do one for me.

 

[dave hedgehog]

Then that’s why they got rid isn’t it

Even worse

Same old shit. Making short term financial gains (although the grigg purchase pisses all over the reason) instead of trying to better the team.

Im pissed off with the new owner. I dont think they are good enough for this club.

Lets sell maja so we dont have to pay for khazri. Wtf!! Then pay 4mill for grigg. Sounds like ellis short crack

 

[Perryqhill]

Then that’s why they got rid isn’t it

Even worse

Of course it isn't. What he's claiming doesn't even make sense, he's just adding two and two together and making 17.

It was probably easier to negotiate with Bordeaux as we owed them money, however nothing about the money he's suggesting we got or owed or the time frames add up.

 

[mart]

We don’t have a penny.

They were trying to use Maja instead of paying for the final instalment on Khazri.

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What an absolute load of bollocks man.
If they’d sold Maja to West Ham for the exact same fee we’d have still had to pay that money to Bordeaux. Nobody has benefited from him going to Bordeaux.

 

[The Rat]

Of course it isn't. What he's claiming doesn't even make sense, he's just adding two and two together and making 17.

It was probably easier to negotiate with Bordeaux as we owed them money, however nothing about the money he's suggesting we got or owed or the time frames add up.

It’s not coincidence

I just can’t believe he sold him, then realized he couldn’t be replaced and panicked and paid more than double what grigg is worth

He’s as much as admitted it now

Just frustrating, promotion was there on a plate with the right signings in Jan

Maja, mcgeady firing

That’s when we blew it.

 

[Perryqhill]

It’s not coincidence

I just can’t believe he sold him, then realized he couldn’t be replaced and panicked and paid more than double what grigg is worth

He’s as much as admitted it now

Just frustrating, promotion was there on a plate with the right signings in Jan

Maja, mcgeady firing

That’s when we blew it.

It's no coincidence we sold him to Bordeuax - agree, because in light of owing them money and them wanting said player it was probably easier to work a deal out.

Anyone thinking we actively tried to sell rather than keep just because of some money owed to Bordeaux is off their f***ing heads though given by that time his importance to us was obvious and the owners were in the press actively putting pressure on him and his agent to sign after they'd stopped talking to us an that's what west winger is suggesting, it doesn't make sense as we have paid more than twice as much for Grigg than we got initially for Maja, whether we owed Bordeaux money or not.