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Keel Crossing [opened 18.10.25] - compendium thread


There's a weird Catch 22 with the people of Sunderland that they constantly demand new things but when they arrive, they complain that they could impact existing things.
I honestly wonder if it’s a Sunderland thing, or if this is reflective of other cities, but we’re not exposed if it.
There’s also the it’ll never work brigade, they demand more but anything that is proposed they instantly say it won’t work, no one will go, what about me bins
It’s usually shops. A certain section of people are desperate to have a city centre full of shops in an environment where face to face shopping is on its arse. Apparently it’s the councils fault, yet if there was money to be made a business owner would open a shop.
 
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I honestly wonder if it’s a Sunderland thing, or if this is reflective of other cities, but we’re not exposed if it.

It’s usually shops. A certain section of people are desperate to have a city centre full of shops in an environment where face to face shopping is on its arse. Apparently it’s the councils fault, yet if there was money to be made a business owner would open a shop.
Its not a sunderland thing ive heard all the same stuff in various places around the world
 
Its not a sunderland thing ive heard all the same stuff in various places around the world

Problem is its only malcontents who post. People who are content just crack on because politics and local government isn't that interesting.

Makes it look like everyone is a whinger and the country is about to collapse because all comments are heavily negative and often racist. Its poisonous because it makes it look like such views are very typical which in turn influences moderate people to think there are deeper problems than there really are.

The best social media / messageboard is the Sunderland messageboard. The reason is that everyone has an opinion about football and we're all engaged by it. Even those of us who are content have an opinion because football is interesting to us. Therefore opinions generally moderate and we challenge each other, which means discourse on the SMB is the same now as it was in 2002 - whereas twitter and facebook have entered the cesspit, the SMB goes strong. Love the SMB and the Sunderland public.
 
I honestly wonder if it’s a Sunderland thing, or if this is reflective of other cities, but we’re not exposed if it.

It’s usually shops. A certain section of people are desperate to have a city centre full of shops in an environment where face to face shopping is on its arse. Apparently it’s the councils fault, yet if there was money to be made a business owner would open a shop.
Happens everywhere. You soon learn that 90% of people haven't got a clue about how a council functions or what's within their remit.
 
Problem is its only malcontents who post. People who are content just crack on because politics and local government isn't that interesting.

Makes it look like everyone is a whinger and the country is about to collapse because all comments are heavily negative and often racist. Its poisonous because it makes it look like such views are very typical which in turn influences moderate people to think there are deeper problems than there really are.

The best social media / messageboard is the Sunderland messageboard. The reason is that everyone has an opinion about football and we're all engaged by it. Even those of us who are content have an opinion because football is interesting to us. Therefore opinions generally moderate and we challenge each other, which means discourse on the SMB is the same now as it was in 2002 - whereas twitter and facebook have entered the cesspit, the SMB goes strong. Love the SMB and the Sunderland public.
I used to use local social media etc if moving to a new place to find digs, suss out the area etc but i soon stopped as any place i would read up on i would be put off by the typical comments. Soon found when i moved there it was totally fine and nothing like the miseries were saying
 
I honestly wonder if it’s a Sunderland thing, or if this is reflective of other cities, but we’re not exposed if it.

It’s usually shops. A certain section of people are desperate to have a city centre full of shops in an environment where face to face shopping is on its arse. Apparently it’s the councils fault, yet if there was money to be made a business owner would open a shop.
I had this with one on facebook the other day, they want shops building where that building has been knocked down at the front of town near the church. I said why when we have empty shop spaces all over town would we build more shop spaces to be empty. They’re really either dim or older and think the town will be like it was in the 80s. In town shopping has largely gone and won’t be coming back. There’s not only less chain stores to take over big plots now, everything has went online and most like to go to out of town shopping areas. Times have totally moved on yet loads on the internet will post and moan about eeeeee the town isn’t what it was there’s nowt there then jump in their cars to Newcastle or the metro centre. It’s the same lot that moan when the cinema shut because everyone was going to boldon or the metro centre and now we’ve got a state of the art cinema they won’t bother to support it but be the first one on moaning should it shut down.
 
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Eh? I bought from the peacock, vesta tilleys and the engine room on Friday but sat/stood in keel square for hours. All of those Sunderland pubs were full of people. I don't think there's any problem like you seem to have envisaged.
My original response was not in reference to the rugby event tbf, however my point still stands that mobile bars shipped in from outside the area are not necessary, and local people and local business should be supported before we set up a mobile bar in front of and within a minute’s walk from a dozen or so pubs
 
My original response was not in reference to the rugby event tbf, however my point still stands that mobile bars shipped in from outside the area are not necessary, and local people and local business should be supported before we set up a mobile bar in front of and within a minute’s walk from a dozen or so pubs
Most of the mobile bars are bars set up and operated by the pubs - see Botanist, Keel, Engine Room. They're not random strangers being allowed to set up outside operating licensed premises.
 
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