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Jordan Henderson compendium thread
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Vauxie
Striker
Old rules you were allowed to be in UK max of 93 days a year if you were classed as normally resident in the UK.
When I first started it was 63 days.
Just had a look its 183 days now by sounds of it.
He played 43 games the previous season. He would have played plenty.So fuck. "Oh sorry I can't sign for you, I'm ambassador for the rainbow laces campaign"...
How? why does his career have to be controlled by what campaigns he's got involved with in good faith.
At the end of the day it's dog eat dog, you have to look after yourself, coz nobody else will.
Everyone goes to Saudi because of the uplift in pay. Footballers are no different, he may also have had no offers in this country and it was obvious Liverpool were finished with him.
He would have taken shit wages, money was not a motivating factor about wanting to come to SAFC.
Yes they were, he was told he would no longer be first choice and at his age that's a big thing.
And???????????????????
Isn't it not a standard thing to do if going to the Middle East for a contract. Why would you pay tax in this country?
No he doesn't at all.
That’s how football works. He didn’t go to Saudi to be first choice man
Wild Card
Striker
I just presumed that he broke UK tax residence and was there only subject to UK tax on his UK sourced income and gains? There doesn't need to be a convoluted payment structure as you already know. Didn't read the article mind.
Bob Fleming
Striker
Hope he has to stay
Vauxie
Striker
Depends how many days per year he was back in the UK.
You have to tell the tax man if you are leaving the UK and taking up residency abroad.
Wild Card
Striker
Yeah, I didn't care enough about his predicament to look when he left to see if it was an issue.
I'm not well versed on the issue but I'm surprised you can defer wages to avoid UK tax . I would have thought it's as earned?
Vauxie
Striker
Never heard of this deferment deal like and I've grafted in most parts of the world over the years.
Few horror stories of lads in saudi not been paid at all like, if that's what is meant by defer.
Read my previous post. It's all in there.
NYMackem
Striker
Not something I've ever dealt with professionally but I think when I left the UK I was only charged US tax on the 2 months of their tax year I was resident for, but my UK tax bill was due on the full year's global income as I was tax resident in the UK for that year. Not that it made any odds as I got a credit for US tax paid which was pretty much the same, but it would have if I'd moved somewhere with no income tax.
I would have thought there would be loads of ways to get round this if you're a famous athlete earning millions. Minimum wage for playing and big image rights deal that starts the day your UK tax residency ends? But who knows how it was structured. Certainly not the journalist that wrote this article.
It makes all the difference in the world. If a normal lad or lass from around here with precious little in the way of wealth went out there to work it is very hard to be critical. However for a multi millionaire x times over and very vocal LGBTQ campaigner JH to go just makes him look like a massive c_unt. Doesn't need a cent of their money but still fucked all of his beliefs over for more bags of silver. Ten's if not hundreds of thousands of people in the UK and maybe elsewhere saw him as the perfect role model, I certainly did. Now they see him as a just another sports-washed sell out, same as all the LIV golfers except they probably never pretended to care so much about the rights of the oppressed as Jordan did.what difference does it make how much money he had in the bank. Mental you lot...
NYMackem
Striker
I haven't said anything of the sort. The article says he has tax liabilities as a result of leaving his contract. It also says he hasn't been paid anything and won't be. I'm only questioning how both those statements can be true.
Also, of course you have no tax liability in the UK if you live in Bahrain and are not UK resident. But in the year you leave or come back to the UK permanently, you might end up with UK tax liabilities from overseas income.
Those criticising JH, thousands of workers from the UK go over to the Middle East every year for work and get paid handsomely for it.
I have plenty of friends and family who did it, some for years in the oil/gas industry.
Has any of you had friends or family that have worked in the middle east? and if so... have you told them exactly what you think of them? I bet not...
Just get off your soap boxes FFS. You all wouldn't have paid any attention to JH going there, had PIF not bought the mags. You just feel the need to turn on one of our own, merely to keep your moral double standards radar in tact, enabling you to keep slating the mags.
JH has had a great successful footballing career, is a massive lads fan and would have jumped at the chance of coming back here.
Have a word with yourselves.
You talk about people working over there to make good money and that's fair enough because you can't make a wage like that here, but you can't compare those people with a Pro footballer who already made millions in this country. He didn't need to move over there, it was purely money motivated.
If he still wasn't money motivated and was such a massive lads fan, then why he's not getting on the blower to the club, saying he'll play for 20k a week? He wouldn't jump at the chance to come here at all man.
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dcl0sc
Striker
Even if it was money related, good luck to him, get it while you can.
NYMackem
Striker
It's not all in there though. You have explained why he would choose to defer his saudi salary perfectly well. However it does not explain how he would NOW have a big UK tax bill if he a) has not actually been paid anything by the Saudis and b) is not moving back to the UK.
I'm not saying anything different. The problem with Henderson is taht he tried to dress it up as it wasn't about money when it clearly was.
Also, that poster reckons he'd jump at that chance to return as he's a massive lads fan, I'm saying he wouldn't.
Vauxie
Striker
Bollox, im totally out of the UK tax system officially and got the certificate.
Even spoke to the UK overseas tax people in Wolverhampton I have no liability at all unless I earn in UK
Yes he will have UK tax liabilities no matter when he gets paid.
Herberthall
Striker
"Greedy Jack" oh a mean Jordan
NYMackem
Striker
I don't even know what in my post you are responding to. Of course you are out of UK tax if you have worked abroad for many years. That is not the same situation as JH, who only moved to Saudi 6 months ago.
Also, not a single one of my posts in this thread have proposed that he owes any UK tax. In fact the opposite, they are all questioning the article that says he owes millions in UK tax with no explanation of why.
