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Jermaine Defoe - Poorest signing in recent memory

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Morny said:
I stand by it. He's had a good two games against two dreadful teams, but more importantly it looks like Allardyce has finally found a way to fit him into the side.

Stand by the view as for his first year here we couldn't play with hin in our side, we had no idea how to. Three managers couldn't, which made him a poor signing.

And as I've said, from the first day I posted it, the title was poorly phrased and over the top.

But nobody dare argue the points I'm making, as they aren't clever enough to.
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You utter spanner :lol:
 
Morny said:
Maybes it does. But it still made him a poor signing if we signed a player we seemingly couldn't fit into our side at all (and actually disrupted) .

If we've now found a way we can, then fine, I'll admit I was wrong. But I'll reserve judgment and at the time of the post, the overall sentiment is spot on (even if the title is ott)
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Are you Danny Graham ?
 
woodlebert said:
He has a one in three record for us, that is very good for a team of our level.

Your point about finally finding a way to play with him is irrelevant as it doesn't affect whether he is a good or bad signing. He was always a good signing - just bein played out of position (but still playing well and scoring) which rests with the managers.
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Well it's not - if a signing disrupts the team, as he done, it's a poor signing. Until the new year, his impact has been negligible tbf; last two games he's been spot on and hopefully it means Allardyce has found a way to play, rather than hitting the kind of hot streak he always has in his career. If it lasts and we continue benefiting like so, then I'll hold my hands up and say he's turned out to be a good one.

Unlike many on here, I'm not going to change my whole opinion on the back of two games.
 
Morny said:
I stand by it. He's had a good two games against two dreadful teams, but more importantly it looks like Allardyce has finally found a way to fit him into the side.

Stand by the view as for his first year here we couldn't play with hin in our side, we had no idea how to. Three managers couldn't, which made him a poor signing.

And as I've said, from the first day I posted it, the title was poorly phrased and over the top.

But nobody dare argue the points I'm making, as they aren't clever enough to.
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Jesus wept
 
Morny said:
Controversial view, but his signing has been a disaster.

Not so much as a player: despite being four years past his (pretty average) best, he's still our best goalscorer and an alright player.

But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.

Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.

He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.

A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.
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OP has had a f***ing 'mare, clueless bell :oops: :lol:
 
Morny said:
:lol: it always will, everytime he scores and that's fair play. But I'll always argue my case about it and not shy away from it. Fuck that.
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After how many goals do you retract that the statements that he's a 'genuinely, catastrophically awful signing' and that he's 'four years past his (pretty average) best'?

Do you still stand by those opinions?
 
Morny said:
Well it's not - if a signing disrupts the team, as he done, it's a poor signing. Until the new year, his impact has been negligible tbf; last two games he's been spot on and hopefully it means Allardyce has found a way to play, rather than hitting the kind of hot streak he always has in his career. If it lasts and we continue benefiting like so, then I'll hold my hands up and say he's turned out to be a good one.

Unlike many on here, I'm not going to change my whole opinion on the back of two games.
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He's scored 12 goals this season. They haven't all came in the last 2 games.
 
Morny said:
Well it's not - if a signing disrupts the team, as he done, it's a poor signing. Until the new year, his impact has been negligible tbf; last two games he's been spot on and hopefully it means Allardyce has found a way to play, rather than hitting the kind of hot streak he always has in his career. If it lasts and we continue benefiting like so, then I'll hold my hands up and say he's turned out to be a good one.

Unlike many on here, I'm not going to change my whole opinion on the back of two games.
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:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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