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For what it’s worth I thought Jennings should have went however the pitches in these last 2 tests are completely different to what he faced. I don’t think he’d have done much better
 


For me Jennings could have got a huge stride in and maybe hoped that it would save him lbw.

cook was talking about that being a method and just to ignore being beaten outside off stump and to play the straight ball.

they showed an axar delivery, using the same grip that went straight on and the other turned a foot, pitching in the same spot

imo England should play for the straight ball and if they edge it, so be it. They need to line up on off stump.
 
Ghfd said:
For me Jennings could have got a huge stride in and maybe hoped that it would save him lbw.

cook was talking about that being a method and just to ignore being beaten outside off stump and to play the straight ball.

they showed an axar delivery, using the same grip that went straight on and the other turned a foot, pitching in the same spot

imo England should play for the straight ball and if they edge it, so be it. They need to line up on off stump.
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Yeah agree with that. The problem there I guess is DRS and the umpires (especially these) being trigger happy with the lbw’s. But we saw in the last game two reviews be not out on umpires call on the distance down the pitch. We should have done that a lot more imo, used their feet and get down the track to the pitch of the ball, even if it’s just to block it, with bat & pad together. Twat the odd one and generally give the bowlers something to think about instead of just being pinned to crease waiting for the one with their name on it. Easy said than done like
 
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Well you said yourself, it was against Sri Lanka.

This is a different kettle of fish. Like I said Hameed got runs here last time why not make a case for him.

It is hard mind, no argument there but Jennings just doesn’t look a Test match player to me and I’d say has had enough chances. File under Ballance, Stoneman, Lyth, Robson etc as decent county batsman, not quite up to international level. IMO of course.
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Call me old fashioned, but I want openers who can do better than single figures every innings.

You arent getting the point, its no compariso to Stoneman, Lyth or anyone

Jennings scored 2 big 100s in Mumbai and Galle, nobody is suggesting picking him for a seeming wicket in May in England like.

What has Jennings scoring a 100 in Mumbai and Galle got to do with Lyth playing NZ in Headingly, its of abolutely no relevance

you've kind of just proved my point with this.

By your logic dont play 2 or 3 spinners in Asia, and just play 4 seamers.

Its a totall different game, and we are going to get well beaten, which says it all
Salem Street South said:
Herath was virtually finished by that point (didn’t play the second Test).

His other scores in those series were 0 (first ball duck) & 1 in India and 1 & 26 in Sri Lanka, albeit the first three were dismissed by seamers.

The fact they’ve brought Bairstow back and not Jennings probably tells us what they think of their respective longer term prospects of being in the side. Coupled with the fact that JB is an important white ball player and bone fide spin specialist (allegedly).

I do see where you & the rat are coming from, but I personally wouldn’t have taken him and nothing I seen to date from him makes me think he’d have had any more success than the ones that are already out there. Could be wrong, just my opinion.
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I am not remotely interested in "long term prospects" I just want to win series

You can disagree but dont start cherry picking scores like that is bang out of order :lol: he scored 2 good 100s against 2 good attacks

he scored a big 100 in Galle, on a spinning wicket, against a good attack

None of our batsman bar Root have scored a 100 all winter, against a worst Sri Lanka team. How is that happene?

Its because batting on spinning wickets is very hard, and 2 of our best players of spin, Jennings and Buttler are sat at home.

The thing I dont get is, you go on about hard it is to score runs in asia, then totally dismiss the efforts by someone who has actually done that, like anyone can

make your mind up, which is it?
 
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The Rat said:
Call me old fashioned, but I want openers who can do better than single figures every innings.

You arent getting the point, its no compariso to Stoneman, Lyth or anyone

Jennings scored 2 big 100s in Mumbai and Galle, nobody is suggesting picking him for a seeming wicket in May in England like.

What has Jennings scoring a 100 in Mumbai and Galle got to do with Lyth playing NZ in Headingly, its of abolutely no relevance

you've kind of just proved my point with this.

By your logic dont play 2 or 3 spinners in Asia, and just play 4 seamers.

Its a totall different game, and we are going to get well beaten, which says it all


I am not remotely interested in "long term prospects" I just want to win series

You can disagree but dont start cherry picking scores like that is bang out of order :lol: he scored 2 good 100s against 2 good attacks

he scored a big 100 in Galle, on a spinning wicket, against a good attack

None of our batsman bar Root have scored a 100 all winter, against a worst Sri Lanka team. How is that happene?

Its because batting on spinning wickets is very hard, and 2 of our best players of spin, Jennings and Buttler are sat at home.

The thing I dont get is, you go on about hard it is to score runs in asia, then totally dismiss the efforts by someone who has actually done that, like anyone can

make your mind up, which is it?
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I don’t know what any of that’s got to do with anything I said to be honest.

I’ve already posted Jennings’s other scores on those tours. 0, 1, 1 and 26. You want openers that do better than single figures every innings yeah?
 
Ghfd said:
For me Jennings could have got a huge stride in and maybe hoped that it would save him lbw.

cook was talking about that being a method and just to ignore being beaten outside off stump and to play the straight ball.

they showed an axar delivery, using the same grip that went straight on and the other turned a foot, pitching in the same spot

imo England should play for the straight ball and if they edge it, so be it. They need to line up on off stump.
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The trouble is you get a ball like Crawley which was lined up with leg stump and spun enough to hit off. I don't think there's any really conventional way to play besides running the down the pitch and doing some French cricket unless it's an absolute pie.
 
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Salem Street South said:
I don’t know what any of that’s got to do with anything I said to be honest.

I’ve already posted Jennings’s other scores on those tours. 0, 1, 1 and 26. You want openers that do better than single figures every innings yeah?
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I might be wrong but didn't Jennings get dropped a few times in the innings he got hundred
 
chopsfc007 said:
Aye I wasn't just being harsh just not convinced he would have done much here
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yeah I agree, would have took him as another batsman but said earlier in thread the pitches he played on are completely different to the last 2 pitches. He batted on a wicket similar to that in the 1st test where we scored big anyway
 
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