Chalks
Winger
Note as of april arriva is a Ltd not a plc so only one shareholder .
Go North East to strike
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Five-Quarter
Midfield
God knows what the answer is
Noticed Arriva Co Durham and Darlington were recently voted the worst in the region and about the very worst in the country. Literally a few percentage points lower than everywhere else up here
Some prat was doing a passenger survey in Durham bus station recently. He wasn't stupid enough to approach the biggest queues or the drug addled or he'd have had his tablet shoved up his arse or sold for gear
As has said there's no public appetite to take notice so future strikes will just run and local businesses/workers/scholars will have to take the hit
Maybe that's the plan. Pit operators, drivers and passengers against each other so they can say at least we're not as bad as x or y
Five-Quarter
Midfield
Strange how the thread title has been left to basically stay misleading
Goat Eyes
Striker
Needs a new thread. I’ve only really read a few pages but there’s a number of tangents.
Five-Quarter
Midfield
The original and big daddy of all bus strikes had it all though:
Affected Tyne and Wear, had a pantomime cast of heroes and villains.
A comedy element thrown in for light relief (management and union),
Amusing stage props (stupidly painted vehicles)
And a tragic element where people lost their livelihoods to make great sacrifices to boost driver salaries
A few bluey-grey Arriva Buses off the roads in Northumberland isn't going to cut it
Brian Griffin
Striker
Don’t argue with an idiot mate.
I remember reading in here what a disgrace it was when ‘management’ stopped a new fleet from being delivered to the NE and instead sent them to London and brought older stock up North.
Completely missing the point that due to a change in emissions legislation it made sense to do so - and the different driving styles of the NE to London also made sense to extend the lifecycle of the vehicle.
Knackers on here: ‘But management are incompetent’.
That decision probably saved 100 jobs.
Wait til the press releases start
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Aye, getting bought by iSquared.
Btw there's different terms with Arriva Durham. Quite a few drivers down there still have paid breaks, so even known their base rate is lower they still come out with more money. Seen it mentioned somewhere.
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Five-Quarter
Midfield
Maybe it's a management tactic then to dump in a load of drivers from elsewhere to soften up the Durham driver collective for the next round of pay talks
Has to be some reason and I doubt rectifying shortages by funding a bunch of non locals to run the routes for a while is a priority
It's a mess like, I really don't know. Arriva in general just seems to be badly ran and it comes from the top as DB Regio hasn't been interested for years so it's just been stuck in limbo for years.
Mind they've had agency staff for ages in Northumbria but appear to have scrapped them recently. It doesn't help that the fleet belongs in a heritage museum, especially at Blyth and there's now vehicle shortages to add into the mix. Arriva's answer, send the newest buses to Redcar.
Can't wait for the new rail line to open personally as it's going to kill them imo (even known some disagree with that). I know it might be an expense, but I'd be doing literally everything to prove why people should use the bus, instead they're doing everything on why you should use the train instead. Complete bizarre management.
Addressing their customers on why there's chronic shortages would be a good start rather than hiding in a bunker, regardless to the strikes.
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Chalks
Winger
Won’t kill arriva, they Couod Just redeploy the buses to another depot and not lost money in that area as they do today …
it's just dawned on me you were the other clueless lad sticking up for management. don't you work in a transport office and think the river tyne is a motorway because it's coloured blue on a map?Don’t argue with an idiot mate.
I remember reading in here what a disgrace it was when ‘management’ stopped a new fleet from being delivered to the NE and instead sent them to London and brought older stock up North.
Completely missing the point that due to a change in emissions legislation it made sense to do so - and the different driving styles of the NE to London also made sense to extend the lifecycle of the vehicle.
Knackers on here: ‘But management are incompetent’.
That decision probably saved 100 jobs.
Wait til the press releases start
Considering the North East is one of the flagship areas for Arriva, it's probably not in their best interests to do that.
The accounts can't really be used as there was the Jesmond mess and the massive pay offs relating to that aswell which naturally going to always overinflate the losses.
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Five-Quarter
Midfield
Oh maybe the interlopers are agency staff then. Easier/cheaper to get shot off when they pull the plug on the NE entirely?
Think they've got shot of them now.
Mind can't see them wanting to get arid of the North East. There's other areas which are even worse and with the upcoming franchising coming in, if they can get an area it's just £££ pretty much. It's not like they have much choice up here as GNE is just as bad and Gateshead Central Taxis are just a dodgy company.
Five-Quarter
Midfield
GNE can't possibly have a fleet as knackered as Arriva NE
A lot of them can barely even get up a slight incline. Get queues behind them every morning/evening
Must be exhausting having to force a great big bus round a route all day long that can hardly actually move, never mind the rest of how shit the job must be at times
It's almost comical
Brian Griffin
Striker
Bantz
Aye you're right there mind about the fleet with Arriva, can't argue. GoNorthEast's isn't much better whenever I've been on though, especially the 15 year old heaps coming from London recently.
I'd hate to do their job though, crap pay, crap job, just a number to management. Grim as an understatement, give me an HGV any day of the week if I was going to drive vehicles.
What was the solution?
