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Just watched the highlights. Super day to follow.

Thought Kelderman might ship 4-5 mins at o e point but he just about managed it to the end. Maybe Dennis went too hard too soon and left TGH on his own for slightly too long.

Must be a good chance of Kelderman getting sick or struggling in the next couple of days.

What odds were Hindley and TGH to win overall at the start!?!
 
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Just watched the highlights. Super day to follow.

Thought Kelderman might ship 4-5 mins at o e point but he just about managed it to the end. Maybe Dennis went too hard too soon and left TGH on his own for slightly too long.

Must be a good chance of Kelderman getting sick or struggling in the next couple of days.

What odds were Hindley and TGH to win overall at the start!?!
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TGH was matched at 339/1 on the betfair exchange
Hindley was matched at 509/1, neother were for huge money so probably half of those prices were what the bookies were offering.

Regarding Kelderman, on the hoghligjts they were saying he only lost 40 seconds combined on the climbs but a minute on the flat when Dennis was going all out for TGH, Wiggins wasnt haply with Hindley for not dropping back either saying he would have basically saved the Giro for Kelderman if he did as he probably wouldn't have dropped the minute on the flat.

I'm curious to know if Ganna was done or they played a blinder and said have a rest and we can use you on the other stage so not to burn out both the huge diesel engines, imagine Ganna and Dennis both pulling you along the valley yesterday , theyd have put 2 minutes into Keldermen within the 5km.
 
FoldingStars said:
TGH was matched at 339/1 on the betfair exchange
Hindley was matched at 509/1, neother were for huge money so probably half of those prices were what the bookies were offering.

Regarding Kelderman, on the hoghligjts they were saying he only lost 40 seconds combined on the climbs but a minute on the flat when Dennis was going all out for TGH, Wiggins wasnt haply with Hindley for not dropping back either saying he would have basically saved the Giro for Kelderman if he did as he probably wouldn't have dropped the minute on the flat.

I'm curious to know if Ganna was done or they played a blinder and said have a rest and we can use you on the other stage so not to burn out both the huge diesel engines, imagine Ganna and Dennis both pulling you along the valley yesterday , theyd have put 2 minutes into Keldermen within the 5km.
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is Kelderman not leaving Sunweb ?
to be honest still probably did the best thing in Hindley following TGH.
While Ganna possibly climbing better than anyone thought possible, it’s highly unlikely he could have made it over the Stelvio with them. Putting two minutes into him on the flat is a stretch mind ;) even with an engine like Ganna

Interesting how Saturday goes and then the TT
Kelderman better in a TT , but could be fucked by then. Hindley beat TGH in first TT when Tao never envisaged anything other than riding for a Thomas. Hart beat Hindley in second longer TT when he was leader with Thomas having left.

sets it up nicely
 
Cee Jay said:
is Kelderman not leaving Sunweb ?
to be honest still probably did the best thing in Hindley following TGH.
While Ganna possibly climbing better than anyone thought possible, it’s highly unlikely he could have made it over the Stelvio with them. Putting two minutes into him on the flat is a stretch mind ;) even with an engine like Ganna

Interesting how Saturday goes and then the TT
Kelderman better in a TT , but could be fucked by then. Hindley beat TGH in first TT when Tao never envisaged anything other than riding for a Thomas. Hart beat Hindley in second longer TT when he was leader with Thomas having left.

sets it up nicely
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Yeah I may have been slightly to optimistic for the 2 minutes comment.

This race is brilliantly set up though, the fact its 3 guys who have never won and 2 that wouldnt have been in many peoples top 15 at the start means anything can happen and it's all guess work, if it was Thomas or Roglic wed be pretty sure of the result.

Bilboa doing the Tour/Giro this year has been an amazing ride aswell.
 
FoldingStars said:
TGH was matched at 339/1 on the betfair exchange
Hindley was matched at 509/1, neother were for huge money so probably half of those prices were what the bookies were offering.

Regarding Kelderman, on the hoghligjts they were saying he only lost 40 seconds combined on the climbs but a minute on the flat when Dennis was going all out for TGH, Wiggins wasnt haply with Hindley for not dropping back either saying he would have basically saved the Giro for Kelderman if he did as he probably wouldn't have dropped the minute on the flat.

I'm curious to know if Ganna was done or they played a blinder and said have a rest and we can use you on the other stage so not to burn out both the huge diesel engines, imagine Ganna and Dennis both pulling you along the valley yesterday , theyd have put 2 minutes into Keldermen within the 5km.
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Nonsense from Wiggins. Kelderman was dropped far enough from the top of the Stelvio he could easily have lost loads more time even with Hindley. By sticking with Ineos they knew Hindley wouldn’t have to take a single turn so had a decent chance of clinging on and coming round for the bonus on the line like he did. If Hindley had been dropped as well it would’ve been a different story.
FoldingStars said:
Yeah I may have been slightly to optimistic for the 2 minutes comment.

This race is brilliantly set up though, the fact its 3 guys who have never won and 2 that wouldnt have been in many peoples top 15 at the start means anything can happen and it's all guess work, if it was Thomas or Roglic wed be pretty sure of the result.

Bilboa doing the Tour/Giro this year has been an amazing ride aswell.
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Bilbao would’ve caught them if the last climb had been much longer after being over a minute down at one point.
Rider protest this morning? Rode 8k then got back on the buses.
 
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Kelderman will be pleased to stay out the cold and his team pleased the riders don't have to put rain jackets on.
Cee Jay said:
is Kelderman not leaving Sunweb ?
to be honest still probably did the best thing in Hindley following TGH.
While Ganna possibly climbing better than anyone thought possible, it’s highly unlikely he could have made it over the Stelvio with them. Putting two minutes into him on the flat is a stretch mind ;) even with an engine like Ganna

Interesting how Saturday goes and then the TT
Kelderman better in a TT , but could be fucked by then. Hindley beat TGH in first TT when Tao never envisaged anything other than riding for a Thomas. Hart beat Hindley in second longer TT when he was leader with Thomas having left.

sets it up nicely
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Going to Bora.
 
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Kelderman is in a big group mind. He looked like he was really struggling though. Tao doesn't look amazing, so don't think it's done yet.

Hindley is really in the box seat.
 
Cee Jay said:
unless Tao has a bad last climb I’d rather be in his shoes for the TT, but with a TT after 3 weeks racing who knows.
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Has Hindley ever raced a TT properly? I know they were saying he lost over a minute to TGH in the last one but surely he didnt go 100%. Im just trying not to get to confident for TGH here, be an amazing comeback from Ineos if they can pull it off though.
 
FoldingStars said:
Has Hindley ever raced a TT properly? I know they were saying he lost over a minute to TGH in the last one but surely he didnt go 100%. Im just trying not to get to confident for TGH here, be an amazing comeback from Ineos if they can pull it off though.
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suppose he was going for white jersey from the start and he did beat TGH in first TT which suggests we was all in.
Hindley does look good though
 
Cee Jay said:
suppose he was going for white jersey from the start and he did beat TGH in first TT which suggests we was all in.
Hindley does look good though
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Hindley looks very comfortable, Dennis is an absolute beast as well. Whatever the outcome this Giro has been amazing and tomorrow is going to be epic.
 

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