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Gary Neville


walesie said:
So it's gone from the 'biggest act of virtue signalling ' to actually he has a point.
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Of course he has a point. But words are cheap. If he was that bothered about workers rights he wouldn't have been sat in that chair in the first place would he? Of course we all know why he was there. I can give you 1,600,000 reasons.
 
Brian Griffin said:
Have you watched it?



Yes he did.





Why didn’t he do this on BEIN?



He’s a coward - and won’t like that being called out.
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Maybe, but it doesn't mean he's wrong.
CaptainRed said:
Of course he has a point. But words are cheap. If he was that bothered about workers rights he wouldn't have been sat in that chair in the first place would he? Of course we all know why he was there. I can give you 1,600,000 reasons.
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If he's making a point you agree with, I don't see how it can be the biggest example of virtue signalling.

I can't imagine why anyone would get so vexed about a man making a point they agree with.
 
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SaintJude said:
So I take it, when we get back to the premier league you won’t be watching us? You know, because it’s in cahoots with the Saudis
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I am not setting myself up as some moral arbiter. I am suggesting that football stops trying to pretend it has any moral code and when people like Neville start to use that platform to call out the government (a government that I detest btw) then maybe we should hear him call out Newcastle United, FIFA, the Premier League etc. If he was consistent he would not keep his job. He clearly picks and chooses his causes and his times to take the moral high ground. I can say, with hand on heart, that if the Saudi regime had taken over Sunderland I would stop attending and that would be a stand I could make.
 
We're all hypocrites. It all comes down to very selective morality and subjective morality.
Gary Neville is no different but he has opinions on many things and in this case, his opinion is bang on the money. It doesn't make him immune to criticism or being a hypocrite though, just as it applies to all of us.

The only difference between Gary Neville and the ordinary Joe/Jenny is how much of a platform is offered to express opinions and the amount of people that get to listen to them.

Most people get to give an opinion via a few friends or via forums which basically faded into obscurity pretty quickly. Gary Neville and co garner mass interest and certainly divided opinions which tend to stay relevant for a long long time.

It doesn't make him any more valid or any the less of a hypocrite but it does make him a voice that is firmly hogged into the limelight.

He is basically famous marmite.
 
walesie said:
Maybe, but it doesn't mean he's wrong.



If he's making a point you agree with, I don't see how it can be the biggest example of virtue signalling.

I can't imagine why anyone would get so vexed about a man making a point they agree with.
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Nobody's getting vexed apart from maybe you. It's just a discussion on a maessageboard. People are just pointing out the blatent hypocrisy and virtue signalling coming from a man who once again has proven he loves his wallet more than his so called morals.
 
CaptainRed said:
Nobody's getting vexed apart from maybe you. It's just a discussion on a maessageboard. People are just pointing out the blatent hypocrisy and virtue signalling coming from a man who once again has proven he loves his wallet more than his so called morals.































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CaptainRed said:
Nobody's getting vexed apart from maybe you. It's just a discussion on a maessageboard. People are just pointing out the blatent hypocrisy and virtue signalling coming from a man who once again has proven he loves his wallet more than his so called morals.
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But you agree with him. OK mate.
 
walesie said:
If he's making a point you agree with, I don't see how it can be the biggest example of virtue signalling.

I can't imagine why anyone would get so vexed about a man making a point they agree with.
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almost feels like its a point he doesn't actually agree with, but is just saying it is so it doesn't look like his stance on here is drawn only on political lines......
 
walesie said:
But you agree with him. OK mate.
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That's largely irrelevant. If he genuinely believed in what he was saying rather than selling out at the first opportunity he wouldn't have been sat there in the first place but that keeps on going over your head.
 
CaptainRed said:
That's largely irrelevant. If he genuinely believed in what he was saying rather than selling out at the first opportunity he wouldn't have been sat there in the first place but that keeps on going over your head.
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Nope, I get it. You don't think he's entitled to air his views, no matter how reasonable because he's taken their oil money.

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