• The forum upgrades are now largely complete.
    Please read this thread for more details.
    New user registrations are currently disabled.

Fast and I mean fast bowlers.....

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted member 26
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.

Anderson isnt the same bowler outside of england, you cant expect to bowl 83 mph and get away with it when its not swinging
Our bowling unit is fairly average outside of england
 
You must be logged on to see external links

Point pretty much proven. 38 average isnt much to be happy about
 
LJS 2013 said:
You must be logged on to see external links

Point pretty much proven. 38 average isnt much to be happy about
Click to expand...
Is that not just his average against certain countries? Doesn't split it out by where the games take place?[DOUBLEPOST=1385458018][/DOUBLEPOST]Anderson in Australia

06/07 - 5 wkts at 82.60
10/11 - 24 wkts at 26.04
13/14 - 2 wkts at 70.00

Overall in Australia 31 wkts at 37.99

Anderson v Australia overall

65 wkts at 36.5
 
Last edited:
Finn is an out and out quick, just needs confidence and a run in the team; his time will come. Broad can mix it up, when his tail is up he hits the 90 MPH mark. Rankin is quick too, Mills at Essex has serious pace, but extremely raw.

Also lets not forget how poor Johnson has been for a number of years, he is in a good place right now but one poor game (hopefully Adelaide) and his confidence will soon dip. Jimmy Anderson is still the best bowler on either sides, followed by Swann. We have proven quality, over a five test match series you'd expect the cream to rise to the top. We just need to buy into the siege mentality of 2010/11 series and stick it up the convicts; amazing how after one win they think they've cracked us!
 
Mitchell Johnson will be shite again when he has a bit of a spell where we score runs off his bowling. Doesn't seem to take much to knock him off his stride.
 
dangermows said:
One thing I will say though is Johnson is less likely to go back to all over the place this time because he wont be asked to try to do anything differently. Last time out there he was trying to swing the ball, bring it back in etc. Now he is basically just sticking to banging it in (either straight or across). That seems to be easier for him to get right consistantly. However, if we learn to play the short stuff better (or not play it at all) then he will have to change things and then he will be in bother.
Click to expand...

Finn and Middlesex could learn a thing or two from this.

If you're that fast why would you fanny about trying to swing it? Leg cutter and slower ball should be enough tricks.[DOUBLEPOST=1385496196][/DOUBLEPOST]
TopCat said:
Raw pace is all well and good, but when the pitch is flat and the ball soft you need a bit of variety. Not may "fast" bowlers have been accurate - Allan Donald was one.

The most successful bowlers have been all about accuracy - Glenn McGrath was in the low to mid 80s but could land the ball 6 times on the same mark. Add in some extra bounce, or varied seam movement and he was unplayable.

Then there was Devon Malcolm.....
Click to expand...
Bang on there. Hadlee is another who sacrificed a few kmh for deadly accuracy. And Graham Onions maybe, if the fucker was given a chance.
 
Last edited:
smoker said:
Finn and Middlesex could learn a thing or two from this.

If you're that fast why would you fanny about trying to swing it? Leg cutter and slower ball should be enough tricks.[DOUBLEPOST=1385496196][/DOUBLEPOST]
Bang on there. Hadlee is another who sacrificed a few kmh for deadly accuracy. And Graham Onions maybe, if the fucker was given a chance.
Click to expand...

Don't know what Onions has done but he deserves a chance. Big problem is our batsmen though. Not as much pressure on our bowlers who aren't doing that bad on good batting tracks to be fair. We need batsmen, Cook, Prior & Pietersen most notably to calm down, get in and get some runs.
 
Patch Lafayette said:
Don't know what Onions has done but he deserves a chance. Big problem is our batsmen though. Not as much pressure on our bowlers who aren't doing that bad on good batting tracks to be fair. We need batsmen, Cook, Prior & Pietersen most notably to calm down, get in and get some runs.
Click to expand...
Fair point, but Clarke aside Aussie batsmen are nowt special as seen last summer. We are allowing players like Haddin, Johnson and Rogers put together big scores. We lack individualized strategies for getting their batsmen out, it's like we are expecting to turn up and blow them away with our sheer brilliance.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top