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Fast and I mean fast bowlers.....

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Why have we not got one ??? We just have hundreds of fast medium plodders.....
 

Mark Wood call ball at 90mph so can chris jordan[DOUBLEPOST=1385334372][/DOUBLEPOST]
Finn and broad can bowl 90mph for starters....

Might bring Mahmood back yet?

All this because mr scatter gun had one good game :lol:
Never seen broad bowl 90mph when did that happen. I know finn can but he's all over the shop.
 
Finn and broad can bowl 90mph for starters....

Might bring Mahmood back yet?

All this because mr scatter gun had one good game :lol:
Not at all, I just can't remember us producing a genuine express bowler. Apart from our Mr Scatter gun Devon Malcolm. :lol:
 
Colly was bowling 90mph in the last championship game I'm certain ;)
 
Mark Wood call ball at 90mph so can chris jordan[DOUBLEPOST=1385334372][/DOUBLEPOST]
Never seen broad bowl 90mph when did that happen. I know finn can but he's all over the shop.

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reverse schwiiiing took over from fast, and we've been prepping pitches just for swing and seamers for too long now, that the straight fast bowlers haven't had much of a look in

There isn't many proper quicks in world cricket really
 
Raw pace is all well and good, but when the pitch is flat and the ball soft you need a bit of variety. Not may "fast" bowlers have been accurate - Allan Donald was one.

The most successful bowlers have been all about accuracy - Glenn McGrath was in the low to mid 80s but could land the ball 6 times on the same mark. Add in some extra bounce, or varied seam movement and he was unplayable.

Then there was Devon Malcolm.....
 
Raw pace is all well and good, but when the pitch is flat and the ball soft you need a bit of variety. Not may "fast" bowlers have been accurate - Allan Donald was one.

The most successful bowlers have been all about accuracy - Glenn McGrath was in the low to mid 80s but could land the ball 6 times on the same mark. Add in some extra bounce, or varied seam movement and he was unplayable.

Then there was Devon Malcolm.....

Enough of this sense. Johnson had a decent game and now its all about bowling git fast!!!!
 
Enough of this sense. Johnson had a decent game and now its all about bowling git fast!!!!
Exactly, Johnson didn't put a foot wrong in Brisbane, any bowler who has a game as consistent as that is going to look good. If he reverts to type, all his fast bowling will mean is it gets to the boundary quicker.

Accuracy is what gets wickets.
 
Exactly, Johnson didn't put a foot wrong in Brisbane, any bowler who has a game as consistent as that is going to look good. If he reverts to type, all his fast bowling will mean is it gets to the boundary quicker.

Accuracy is what gets wickets.

Agree totally. Johnson is just one ball away from reverting to type. Seemingly he is a confidence player - no coincidence that the last time he ripped through us (Perth 2010) was when he had made a rapid 60+ with the bat....
 
Exactly, Johnson didn't put a foot wrong in Brisbane, any bowler who has a game as consistent as that is going to look good. If he reverts to type, all his fast bowling will mean is it gets to the boundary quicker.

Accuracy is what gets wickets.

One thing I will say though is Johnson is less likely to go back to all over the place this time because he wont be asked to try to do anything differently. Last time out there he was trying to swing the ball, bring it back in etc. Now he is basically just sticking to banging it in (either straight or across). That seems to be easier for him to get right consistantly. However, if we learn to play the short stuff better (or not play it at all) then he will have to change things and then he will be in bother.
 
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In English conditions bowlers never really need to bowl that quickly to take wickets. Mid to low 80s and a bit of sideways movement gets wickets on English pitches.
 
Mark Wood call ball at 90mph so can chris jordan[DOUBLEPOST=1385334372][/DOUBLEPOST]
Never seen broad bowl 90mph when did that happen. I know finn can but he's all over the shop.

When Broard first got into the England team he was bowling fast regularly. He has suffered some confusion about his role at times, some of it down to himself, and his stock bowling pace is , by the gun , somewhere around 87mph to 88mph.


But he can bowl a fair bit faster. Most recently at Chester le Street on the last day of the test there in the summer, he bowled a match winning spell that was considerably quicker than anything else in the match. I was sitting at about point to the right handers when Broard was bowling during this hour or so. It was the only time in the game I couldn't pick the ball properly and I was there for the whole four days. Prior even moved himself and the slips back a couple of yards and the Aussies were beaten for pace one after the other. The gun on the screen was showing over 90mph, but the better measurement was the behaviour of the players out in the field. That and the evidence of my eyes.

Broard can bowl fast alright, though he is not an out and out fast man like Johnson or Brett Lee.
 
Countries who play on fast n bouncy decks from grass roots will naturally produce the odd quickie because it encourages that type of bowling.

Its why India never produce quickies but a load of spinners
 
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