FA CUP 1913

homeless kid said:
One of my major regrets in football that we didn’t win that day

Getting triggered by something that happened 70 years before I was born. Pathetic!
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Looking back through modern eyes we were probably fatigued. We played 10 FA Cup games that season including 4 replays. We played the mags 3 times in the cup over 6 days. We were unbeaten in 12 games leading up to the final.

Unfortunately George Holley, one of our star strikers (his England career was 10 appearances, 8 goals) had missed our previous game with an ankle injury but we decided to play him carrying the injury in the final in the days of no substitutes. Unsurprisingly he played very poorly.
 


attamatter said:
I was there
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My Grandad certainly was he told me so himself. He was born in 1890 and would have been 23 at the time. He was also at the 1937 final.

In 1938 he was invited by the BBC to Broadcasting House to shout "Haway the Lads" on the 25th anniversary of the 1913 final for a programme called "A Post Card from 1913" that recalled all that year's noteable events. Some years ago I contacted the BBC Sound Archive in the hope that the might have kept a recording of the programme but they hadn't.
 
DrewC said:
1913 FA Cup Final
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Event1912–13 FA Cup
10
Aston VillaSunderland
Date19 April 1913
VenueCrystal Palace, London
RefereeA. Adams
Attendance121,919
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The 1913 FA Cup final was contested by Aston Villa and Sunderland on 19 April 1913at London's Crystal Palace. Playing as the home side, Aston Villa won 1–0 on a goal by Tommy Barber on a crossed ball from Charlie Wallace. Wallace had earlier missed a penalty, something that would not occur again in an FA Cup final until the 1988 final between Wimbledon and Liverpool.

It was Sunderland's first appearance in the FA Cup Final and the first time The Football League's top two finishers had vied for the trophy (even though the League would not be decided for another week).[citation needed] On their way to the match Sunderland had to replay their quarter-final twice and then their semi-final once after draws in those contests. Aston Villa was re-appearing in the final after an eight-year absence and their victory was their fifth, equalling the then-current record of the Wanderers and Blackburn Rovers.

During the match Sunderland's Charlie Thomson and Villa's Harry Hampton almost immediately resumed a long-running feud that led to both players being suspended for a month at the start of the following season.[citation needed] The contest was noted for its rough play and led to the withdrawal of Sunderland's invitation to take part in the 1913 Charity Shield match. Referee Mr. A. Adams from Nottingham was also suspended, having allowed no less than 17 minutes for stoppage time.

I copied it from Wikipedia….i did not realize we where kicked out of the 1913 Charity Shield. I would have thought League winner would get to play. 17 minutes add time our game today is catching up. Interesting reading history….
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Bet there's a few owld c***s on here attended😬
 
Keith S30S said:
Looking back through modern eyes we were probably fatigued. We played 10 FA Cup games that season including 4 replays. We played the mags 3 times in the cup over 6 days. We were unbeaten in 12 games leading up to the final.

Unfortunately George Holley, one of our star strikers (his England career was 10 appearances, 8 goals) had missed our previous game with an ankle injury but we decided to play him carrying the injury in the final in the days of no substitutes. Unsurprisingly he played very poorly.
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There’s a book about the season “in search of the double” by Paul days and mark metcalf. Got a copy in the house - might dig it out
 
chriswallace85 said:
We woulda been the first team to do The Double.


EDIT: Or maybes not. Preston had done it in 1889, and then Villa in 1889. :lol:

I'd been under the impression for years that we would have been the first. I must have read it somewhere and it's been wrong. Unless it was the first team in the 20th Century or summit.
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Would’ve been. Think Spurs were in 1961.
Wrenthorpe Mackem said:
Given how do successful we were in league one cup final up to 1930s was a poor return.
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Jonathan Wilson wrote an article on 1973 but went into our early history and he mentioned how even in the early ish 1900s generally it was a surprise that SAFC hadn’t won the cup given how dominant a league side we were.
 
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Keith S30S said:
Unfortunately George Holley, one of our star strikers (his England career was 10 appearances, 8 goals) had missed our previous game with an ankle injury but we decided to play him carrying the injury in the final in the days of no substitutes. Unsurprisingly he played very poorly.
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I remember reading that the Sunderland reserve, Walter Tinsley, was due to play; but had such an attack of nerves the night before that Holley declared himself fit to play to protect Tinsley.
Apparently, Billy Williams, Sunderland's long-serving trainer, never forgave Holley.

Four days later, Tinsley played, and scored, in a 1-1 draw with Villa, which pretty much secured the title.

Random piece of trivia, although it's often mentioned that this was the first time the top two sides in the league had played in the Cup final, on the actual day of the game we were 1st and Villa 3rd. Sheffield Wednesday were in second place, albeit having played more games than both Sunderland and Villa. It was only after the games in hand were played that Villa moved into second place.
 

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