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F1 2026

F1 is over regulated.

The above post outlined just one aspect of the regs is a classic example.

In my view there is no need for it.
 

PTR said:
But the party who wrote that rule and then too far too long to address it are to blame for both of those things.
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i suspect it won't be the last time the rules are amended either. was reading someone at williams talking about the ice v battery balancing act they'll be dealing with, and that you'll likely hear a lot of over-reviving throw corners while they attempt to recharge the battery so that it can get them around the lap. bearman has already been twisting about LiCo being prominent in races... i imagine they'll want to iron out those changes by tweaking the rules again & again.

whilst not quite screaming v12s, at least we might get some extra audio feedback from cars going through some corners in 1st gear now... :lol:
 
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errant said:
i suspect it won't be the last time the rules are amended either. was reading someone at williams talking about the ice v battery balancing act they'll be dealing with, and that you'll likely hear a lot of over-reviving throw corners while they attempt to recharge the battery so that it can get them around the lap. bearman has already been twisting about LiCo being prominent in races... i imagine they'll want to iron out those changes by tweaking the rules again & again.

whilst not quite screaming v12s, at least we might get some extra audio feedback from cars going through some corners in 1st gear now... :lol:
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Have they got rid of the fuel flow limit?
All for them having a set amount of fuel and using it however they wish. A "boost" button to overtake using the ICE is just as valid as a KERS type button imo
 
Rules on engine won’t change despite what was said in Italian media this morning. Probably change it for next year
 
L18SFC said:
Rules on engine won’t change despite what was said in Italian media this morning. Probably change it for next year
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That's not quite what the race said. There hasn't been any changes yet, the Italian media made it sound like changes had been made but others pointed out there still needs to be a vote for any changes. The key change that has happened this week there is now the required amount of teams needed to force the change however FIA and FOM need to also agree. Italian media seemed to suggest they were onside, the race is a lot more sceptical.

Teams are pushing for change now, FIA could decide to agree to that or they could suggest delaying until next year as a compromise.
 
I want to watch an F1 where the drivers can drive the car flat out for 60 laps not fanny about, the tyres have a useful range bigger than about 8 laps before they turn to mush, cars can overtake without needing a wing to open, the cars are smaller, and theres no stupid battery balancing at the end of every lap.
 
Zidane said:
I want to watch an F1 where the drivers can drive the car flat out for 60 laps not fanny about, the tyres have a useful range bigger than about 8 laps before they turn to mush, cars can overtake without needing a wing to open, the cars are smaller, and theres no stupid battery balancing at the end of every lap.
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Less regulation, let the designers go wild, stick a big petrol engine in the back,
Any size fuel tank you want, any ride height, any weight.

Mandate engine capacity and let’s go racing.

Oh and try to find a tyre manufacturer that can actually make a tyre.
 
Big Jeff said:
Less regulation, let the designers go wild, stick a big petrol engine in the back,
Any size fuel tank you want, any ride height, any weight.

Mandate engine capacity and let’s go racing.

Oh and try to find a tyre manufacturer that can actually make a tyre.
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So back to when Bridgestone and Michellin were suppliers in the 2000s and they would easily do a full race distance flat out, with next to no overtaking?
 
anth said:
So back to when Bridgestone and Michellin were suppliers in the 2000s and they would easily do a full race distance flat out, with next to no overtaking?
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There are many factors that contribute to overtaking. As you know as you are a knowledgeable F1 poster.

Getting rid of carbon brakes might help but f1 is the pinnacle of motor sport so degrading performance in such a manner will never happen.

Less regulation is the answer. Let’s the teams run free.

Oh and tracks contribute massively to overtaking.
 
Big Jeff said:
There are many factors that contribute to overtaking. As you know as you are a knowledgeable F1 poster.

Getting rid of carbon brakes might help but f1 is the pinnacle of motor sport so degrading performance in such a manner will never happen.

Less regulation is the answer. Let’s the teams run free.

Oh and tracks contribute massively to overtaking.
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The trouble is when they were less regulated we ended up with the 2008 cars with wings sticking up all over the place making following impossible. I have an image in my head of some cars that had mini wings mounted to each side pod too. They look awful.

I am happy to agree the tracks being a huge issue. I have long since said Monaco needs to be binned. But i disagree with the less regulation. The V10s sound good, but that's it. Technically they are a step into history, and like it or not, they are not relevant to road cars. Hybrids are. I found it quite amusing that the year F1 ditched the MGU-H technology because it was too complicated, not road relevant and they wanted more engine manufacturers, Porsche implement it in the new 911 turbo S. :rolleyes:

To be honest, I am not sure what the solution is. We all want drivers to be driving flat out all race. We all want good competitive races with lots of action. The issue is teams always work out how is the fastest way to complete those 300km on a Sunday, that is their goal and they aren't bothered about the racing spectacle. So it doesn't really matter what you do, give them bullet proof tyres, they will go forever on them, give them tyres that fall to bits then will driving slower to make them last as long as possible.
 
anth said:
The trouble is when they were less regulated we ended up with the 2008 cars with wings sticking up all over the place making following impossible. I have an image in my head of some cars that had mini wings mounted to each side pod too. They look awful.

I am happy to agree the tracks being a huge issue. I have long since said Monaco needs to be binned. But i disagree with the less regulation. The V10s sound good, but that's it. Technically they are a step into history, and like it or not, they are not relevant to road cars. Hybrids are. I found it quite amusing that the year F1 ditched the MGU-H technology because it was too complicated, not road relevant and they wanted more engine manufacturers, Porsche implement it in the new 911 turbo S. :rolleyes:

To be honest, I am not sure what the solution is. We all want drivers to be driving flat out all race. We all want good competitive races with lots of action. The issue is teams always work out how is the fastest way to complete those 300km on a Sunday, that is their goal and they aren't bothered about the racing spectacle. So it doesn't really matter what you do, give them bullet proof tyres, they will go forever on them, give them tyres that fall to bits then will driving slower to make them last as long as possible.
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You are right about the teams and the way they will find to run the races

Monaco will never get dumped. F1 is money. And money revolves around Monaco.

But we need tracks that are suited to racing, that have a long straight, that are wide, that have gradient, that have grip, that get weather.

We need more wet weather racing. We needs the willingness to put full wets on and race.

On engines I resolutely stand behind geet big petrol engines. I don’t drive a battery car and as long as I can I never will.

I’d love F1 to bring back the banshee wail of the V10.

F1 is a show. The sound is an intrinsic part of the show.
 
Big Jeff said:
You are right about the teams and the way they will find to run the races

Monaco will never get dumped. F1 is money. And money revolves around Monaco.

But we need tracks that are suited to racing, that have a long straight, that are wide, that have gradient, that have grip, that get weather.

We need more wet weather racing. We needs the willingness to put full wets on and race.

On engines I resolutely stand behind geet big petrol engines. I don’t drive a battery car and as long as I can I never will.

I’d love F1 to bring back the banshee wail of the V10.

F1 is a show. The sound is an intrinsic part of the show.
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oh yea i know Monaco will never get dumped, the point is if it is just down to racing it would have been gone decades ago, obviously it is not.
We need less street circuits and more circuits like COTA.
The issue with wet weather racing is visibility through the spray. As long as we have a defuser that will always be bad.
You may have a problem with batteries in cars, but that is the way the world is going, even if it not full EV. What would a company like VAG get from making a 20,000 rpm V10? Basically nothing relevant, so why bother making an engine and entering? What you would end up with is the old guard of Ferrari and Mercedes who still make super cars being the only engine suppliers. F1 is a show, but those who are putting the show want something back for doing it.
 
anth said:
oh yea i know Monaco will never get dumped, the point is if it is just down to racing it would have been gone decades ago, obviously it is not.
We need less street circuits and more circuits like COTA.
The issue with wet weather racing is visibility through the spray. As long as we have a defuser that will always be bad.
You may have a problem with batteries in cars, but that is the way the world is going, even if it not full EV. What would a company like VAG get from making a 20,000 rpm V10? Basically nothing relevant, so why bother making an engine and entering? What you would end up with is the old guard of Ferrari and Mercedes who still make super cars being the only engine suppliers. F1 is a show, but those who are putting the show want something back for doing it.
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You are right. I know that, I’m just a hopeful optimist looking for better racing.

No one wants to see 73 stagnant laps. Certain circuits should be sacrosanct- Spa, Monza, Suzuka, Silverstone athough flat, and I’m not a fan of street circuits.
 
Big Jeff said:
You are right. I know that, I’m just a hopeful optimist looking for better racing.

No one wants to see 73 stagnant laps. Certain circuits should be sacrosanct- Spa, Monza, Suzuka, Silverstone athough flat, and I’m not a fan of street circuits.
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Yea there are certain ones that can not be touched. Suzuka is an iconic circuit, but it is also crap for overtaking. It might benefit from the pit straight being a bit longer and into a tighter right hander. 130R would be more prime for that overtaking opportunity, but it's an iconic corner in itself so can't be touched. For me Canada, while a street circuit has been around for so long and it is one of my favourite tracks that I would hate to see it disappear. The likes of Miami, Singapore and Vegas have no place.

I am hoping the new engines brings some tactical driving.
 
anth said:
Yea there are certain ones that can not be touched. Suzuka is an iconic circuit, but it is also crap for overtaking. It might benefit from the pit straight being a bit longer and into a tighter right hander. 130R would be more prime for that overtaking opportunity, but it's an iconic corner in itself so can't be touched. For me Canada, while a street circuit has been around for so long and it is one of my favourite tracks that I would hate to see it disappear. The likes of Miami, Singapore and Vegas have no place.

I am hoping the new engines brings some tactical driving.
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Yup canada is a good un.
 
Any lads (or lasses) on here been to Silverstone and stayed in Milton Keynes? Found a free cancellation hotel for 80 quid a night for this year so going to head down, curious to know if anyone knows the best way to get from the city to the track?
 
Big Jeff said:
You are right. I know that, I’m just a hopeful optimist looking for better racing.

No one wants to see 73 stagnant laps. Certain circuits should be sacrosanct- Spa, Monza, Suzuka, Silverstone athough flat, and I’m not a fan of street circuits.
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I still think that a reverse grid would help the sprint races. In terms of the main race, i think tyres should last longer, however if they do, the teams will just go for the softs instead and run them into the ground. Hards could probably last most of a race these days but due to the performance they wont use them. If they had all tyres go longer we would never see the hard used at all really. Could reducing the tyre options to simply soft and hards then help? so they know they have to run long stints regardless at some point in the race, so wouldnt nurse the tyres as much?
 
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