F1 2021

FulwellViaLeeds said:
I didn't know that they didn't have an extra set of mediums, but according to pit lane tracker the gap was around 26 seconds, so they could have potentially covered the stop.

Maybe today they couldn't have done much about Mercedes, but I think they should have definitely won at Bahrain, and at Portimao Verstappen made small errors in qualifying and the race that cost him. It's definitely been fine margins this season, and that's the way it should be.

For balance, Hamilton may well have won at Imola if not for his own error.
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The pit lane tracker doesn’t give a representative gap as the timing line is at the pit lane limiter line. They were less than 1 second apart when Lewis pulled into the pits, he had DRS open before switching right. The undercut would have been easy meat regardless.
 


TravellingMackem said:
The pit lane tracker doesn’t give a representative gap as the timing line is at the pit lane limiter line. They were less than 1 second apart when Lewis pulled into the pits, he had DRS open before switching right. The undercut would have been easy meat regardless.
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Fair enough. I did say that I didn't think they could probably do too much about Hamilton today. Just that generally there's been a pattern of small errors this season that have allowed Hamilton to gain the upper hand.
 
TravellingMackem said:
Not sure what error red bull made today tbh, considering they didn’t have another set of mediums to follow Lewis into the pits with, and Lewis would have undercut Max regardless. The pit stop error proves immaterial in the scheme of things
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Well that's the point. Mercedes always planned this strategy and planned to have a set of scrubbed mediums ready to put on at the second stop. Hamilton said exactly this.

Red Bull made the error yesterday or even Friday in using those mediums. Still, fastest P3 time... but you don't get any points for that.
 
errant said:
You’ve got to doff your cap to the team today mind, this genuinely defines ‘team’ effort.
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This ^ ^ ^

Hamilton, although clearly one of the all time greats, has allowed himself to be the principal element of THE high performance team.

They all work on fine margins but Mercedes have looked at their power train advantage and made it work across just about every other area of the team.

Okay, so RBR can pitstop in under 2 seconds and there may be teams who can also say they're better than Mercedes in that area or this area.

Mercedes will have analysed it all and run a threat analysis thereby deciding whether they need to address the specific area or being 98% as good will be enough.

They're an amazing organisation with great depth who deserve all the plaudits - which Sir Lewis reminds us at the end of nearly every race weekend.

On a side note, the quality of the banter on this thread seems to have gone up a notch. I'm enjoying it nearly as much as the action itself!
 
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ebb said:
I agree. This will be the 8th season in a row they've dominated now.
At least get rid of DRS as passing in the zone is far too easy
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Bring back the V8s and get rid of the tinker toys.
TravellingMackem said:
It isn’t their job to make the sport interesting. It’s their job to win. Red Bull and Ferrari have dulled it by not keeping up. Not sure what you want from them.

And it’s suddenly moved onto merc from DRS now that you’re having a go at. You can’t criticise merc for their success
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When Bernie was in charge he would change the formula to stop too much domination.

The damage has been done and many, many people have lost interest in the sport.
 
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F1 strategy begins on Friday not at 2.00pm on Sunday, the key is to get the compromise of balance right for you at that particular circuit. Tyre management is critical and timing of pits stops and placement back into traffic vital.

Merc are at the top of their game and Lewis is the greatest F1 driver of his generation.
 
MrBraithwaite said:
Bring back the V8s and get rid of the tinker toys.

When Bernie was in charge he would change the formula to stop too much domination.

The damage has been done and many, many people have lost interest in the sport.
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Viewing figures disagree with your assertion. Not much wrong with the sport, the last few years have been as entertaining as any in the last 30 frankly. People are just upset because Lewis isn’t popular but he’s dominating. Other teams should pull their fingers out and do a better job instead of constantly slamming Mercedes
 
MrBraithwaite said:
Bring back the V8s and get rid of the tinker toys.
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The world only ever moves forward, and the motor manufacturers only want efuel tech in the future.

sky had the historic monaco Grand Prix on two weeks ago, might be more your thing.
TravellingMackem said:
Viewing figures disagree with your assertion.
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That & the sponsorship numbers are growing with more manufacturers gearing up to get involved.
 
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JohnSmithUK said:
Sometimes he is insightful and offers a great view on things, but then he goes on like a tit and I just want to stamp on his head.
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Exactly, he has 2 modes

1 - Knowledgable and likeable senior F1 personality
2 - Partisan opinions being pushed under the guise of #1 above

and that's why people think he's disingenuous
 
Managed to watch the Sky Highlights show lastnight. Didn't see to be too bad, considering its Barca.
Although there were big jumps, 10+ laps at a time.
 
PTR said:
Managed to watch the Sky Highlights show lastnight. Didn't see to be too bad, considering its Barca.
Although there were big jumps, 10+ laps at a time.
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it was an Ok watch - mainly interesting due to the aggressive merc strategy. I like merc/Lewis so it was great to see them getting the jump on red bull who can be quite innovative on their calls
 
errant said:
The world only ever moves forward, and the motor manufacturers only want efuel tech in the future.

sky had the historic monaco Grand Prix on two weeks ago, might be more your thing.

That & the sponsorship numbers are growing with more manufacturers gearing up to get involved.
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Yeah. But the flop of the F1 app underlines just how massaged the figures actually are. The standard of racing is dire, and this is even more uncompetitive than the Loeb rally era.
 
errant said:
The world only ever moves forward, and the motor manufacturers only want efuel tech in the future.

sky had the historic monaco Grand Prix on two weeks ago, might be more your thing.

That & the sponsorship numbers are growing with more manufacturers gearing up to get involved.
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Tying F1 to road technology development is a big reason its in the mess its in. Very little technology was ever developed via this route anyway, it was just marketing bs to justify the sport.

Electric tech just doesn't translate. It seems unlikely that battery technology will ever be up to the job, never mind in the near future.
 

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