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Maybe he's been told he won't be picked?

He was already retired from the 50 over stuff

He’d have turned it down
Buttler (C)
Bairstow (W)
Malan
Root
Brook
Livingstone
M Ali
S Curran
Woakes
Wood/Archer/Mahmood
Rash

Decent line up thar like.

Root will play 3. One of the best of all time in that role, Buttler doesn’t open in the 50 over stuff.

No Stokes is still a huge issue like. As we need someone in top 6 who can bowl. Livingstone could do it but he really hasn’t impressed much.

There’s a huge different between IPL and a 50 over World Cup in India. The scores will be lower they always are and tense

Roy will open I reckon.

I feel Malan will probs miss out for Brook, it’s canny harsh like. But I’d not be against Malan opening.
 
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Fifty over team ?

and I agree, however Buttler will be the keeper

bairstow has been a decent out fielder in white ball stuff

Oooh not sure on odi or t20 mate. Let's say both ha, as I can't think of anyone who gets in, maybe another power hitter like salt instead of Malan or Root?

Ahh so true about Buttler keeping wicket. Forgot about that. I was more thinking about Buttler opening or coming down order. I reckon he's our best white ball batter so open for me as we have huge hitters down the order too.
He was already retired from the 50 over stuff

He’d have turned it down


Root will play 3. One of the best of all time in that role, Buttler doesn’t open in the 50 over stuff.

No Stokes is still a huge issue like. As we need someone in top 6 who can bowl. Livingstone could do it but he really hasn’t impressed much.

There’s a huge different between IPL and a 50 over World Cup in India. The scores will be lower they always are and tense

Roy will open I reckon.

I feel Malan will probs miss out for Brook, it’s canny harsh like. But I’d not be against Malan opening.

Some good shouts there like. Especially about missing Stokes. But let's see your 11, so we can compare.
 
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England ODI squad to face New Zealand: Jos Buttler (Lancashire, captain), Moeen Ali (Warwickshire), Gus Atkinson (Surrey), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Reece Topley (Surrey), David Willey (Northamptonshire), Mark Wood (Durham), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire).


England T20I squad to face New Zealand: Jos Buttler (Lancashire, captain), Rehan Ahmed (Leicestershire), Moeen Ali (Warwickshire), Gus Atkinson (Surrey), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Harry Brook (Yorkshire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Ben Duckett (Nottinghamshire), Will Jacks (Surrey), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Josh Tongue (Worcestershire), John Turner (Hampshire), Luke Wood (Lancashire).
 
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I dont think Roy looks the same player these days so wouldn't have necessarily have chosen him. Sam hain or Brook would have been a better choice
 
I dont think Roy looks the same player these days so wouldn't have necessarily have chosen him. Sam hain or Brook would have been a better choice
Not great against spin, whereas its Ducketts strength and we're playing in India.
Brook done pretty well when hes played too.
Not so sure we need Topley, Curran and Willey in the squad.
Aye, could do with another spinner or batter over Willey, who I just think wont be effective in India.
Rashid, Ali, Wood, Woakes, Atkinson (with Root, Livingston, Stokes) as the front line bowlers.

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Livingston
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Wood
Atkinson

Malan, Topley, Willey, Curran
 
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I dont think Roy looks the same player these days so wouldn't have necessarily have chosen him. Sam hain or Brook would have been a better choice
Neither of them open in white ball. Hain is more like Root the number 3 that bats the innings as the 75-90 run strike rate.

Roy averages 46 this year and 33 last year. Malan can open instead but then Malan can bat 3-5 too.

Brook misses out cos of Stokes simple as that.
 
England squad for ODI series against New Zealand: Jos Buttler (captain), Moeen Ali, Gus Atkinson, Jonny Bairstow, Sam Curran, Liam Livingstone, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, Reece Topley, David Willey, Mark Wood, Chris Woakes.

England squad for T20 series against New Zealand: Jos Buttler (captain), Rehan Ahmed, Moeen Ali, Gus Atkinson, Jonny Bairstow, Harry Brook, Sam Curran, Ben Duckett, Will Jacks, Liam Livingstone, Dawid Malan, Adil Rashid, Josh Tongue, John Turner, Luke Wood.
 
Not great against spin, whereas its Ducketts strength and we're playing in India.
Brook done pretty well when hes played too.

Aye, could do with another spinner or batter over Willey, who I just think wont be effective in India.
Rashid, Ali, Wood, Woakes, Atkinson (with Root, Livingston, Stokes) as the front line bowlers.

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Livingston
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Wood
Atkinson

Malan, Topley, Willey, Curran
Duckett scored 23 in his 3 ODI innings this year having not played an ODI since 2016 prior to that.

Roy/Bairstow are the best opening pair ever in ODI cricket as far as average goes. I can't see them wanting to change that for anybody else.

Salt has partnered Roy more than anyone else since the beginning of 2022

JM Bairstow, JJ Roy (ENG)2017-2022500292217458.441410

 
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Duckett scored 23 in his 3 ODI innings this year having not played an ODI since 2016 prior to that.

Roy/Bairstow are the best opening pair ever in ODI cricket as far as average goes. I can't see them wanting to change that for anybody else.

Salt has partnered Roy more than anyone else since the beginning of 2022

JM Bairstow, JJ Roy (ENG)2017-2022500292217458.441410

Salt, didnt even get a mention until this post or in any articles on the squads :eek:
 

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